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What Uber tells us about the gender pay gap

Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:55 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:55 am


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There’s a really interesting new research paper titled “The Gender Earnings Gap in the Gig Economy: Evidence from More Than a Million Rideshare Drivers” written by five economists — two who are employed by Uber Technologies (Cody Cook and (Jonathan Hall), two Stanford graduate business professors (Rebecca Diamond and Paul Oyer) and the chairman of the University of Chicago economics department (John List). It was featured yesterday as a Freakonomics podcast. As the title of the paper suggests, the researchers analyzed national ride-sharing data for nearly 1.9 million Uber drivers (27.3% female) who provided more than 740 million Uber trips between January 2015 and March 2017 in 196 US cities. Here’s part of the Freakonomics podcast

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DUBNER: So let me just make sure I’m clear. You’re saying there’s no gender discrimination on the Uber side, on the supply side, because the algorithm is gender-blind and the price is the price. And you’re saying there’s no gender discrimination on the passenger side. So does that mean that discrimination accounts for zero percent of whatever pay gap you find or don’t find between male and female Uber drivers? LIST: That’s correct.


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The growth of the “gig” economy generates worker flexibility that, some have speculated, will favor women. We explore one facet of the gig economy by examining labor supply choices and earnings among more than a million rideshare drivers on Uber in the U.S. Perhaps most surprisingly, we find that there is a roughly 7% gender earnings gap among drivers. The uniqueness of our data—knowing exactly the production and compensation functions—permits us to completely unpack the underlying determinants of the gender earnings gap. We find that the entire gender gap is caused by three factors: a) experience on the platform (learning-by-doing), b) preferences over where/when to work, and c) preferences for driving speed. This suggests that, as the gig economy grows and brings more flexibility in employment, women’s relatively high opportunity cost of non-paid-work time and gender-based preference differences can perpetuate a gender earnings gap even in the absence of discrimination.

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We can explain the entire gap with three factors. First, hourly earnings on Uber vary predictably by location and time of week, and men tend to drive in more lucrative locations. The second factor is work experience. Even in the relatively simple production of a passenger’s ride, past experience is valuable for drivers. A driver with more than 2,500 lifetime trips completed earns 14% more per hour than a driver who has completed fewer than 100 trips in her time on the platform, in part because she learn where to drive, when to drive, and how to strategically cancel and accept trips. Male drivers accumulate more experience than women by driving more each week and being less likely to stop driving with Uber. Because of these returns to experience and because the typical male Uber driver has more experience than the typical female—putting them higher on the learning curve—men earn more money per hour.



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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:58 am to
oh boy. i'll read this between meetings today
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:59 am to
samesies
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:59 am to
I hear that women are not good drivers.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:02 am to
I just can’t make myself give a frick about this nonsense anymore

Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:03 am to
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We show that—much like with traditional jobs—there is a gender pay gap. However, unlike earlier studies, we are able to completely explain the pay gap with three main factors related to driver preferences and learning: returns to experience, a pay premium for faster driving, and preferences for where to drive. Indeed, the contribution of the return to experience to gender earnings gaps has not gotten much attention in previous empirical literature, as it is often quite difficult to measure in traditional work settings. These results suggest that the role of on-the-job learning may contribute to the gender earnings gap more broadly in the economy than previously thought.

Overall, our results suggest that, even in the gender-blind, transactional, flexible environment of the gig economy, gender-based preferences can open gender earnings gaps. The preference differences that contribute to pay differences in professional markets for lawyers and MBAs also lead to earnings gaps for drivers on Uber, suggesting they are pervasive across the skill distribution and whether in the traditional or gig workplace.


this study will be ignored by many
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:04 am to
Well thought out study. Good stuff. One of many studies that explain the gender pay gap is real, but has nothing to do with discrimination.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86736 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:06 am to
odds that these types of stories get spun as "victim blaming"?
Posted by Lou Pai
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:06 am to
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Perhaps most surprisingly, we find that there is a roughly 7% gender earnings gap among drivers.


Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:07 am to
I drive for Uber/Lyft. There is no way I'd want my wife working the same areas and times that I make the best money in. Also, I notice there aren't nearly as many female drivers out at those times compared to "safer" times of the day and locations. So I would totally agree with these finding.
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:07 am to
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i'll read this between meetings today




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SlowFloPro


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meetings



Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:07 am to
Very interesting study. Just more evidence as to why a discriminatory gender wage gap is a myth.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:08 am
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:08 am to
I highly recommend the recent freakonomics podcast on this. They are audibly put out about their results and offer a couple of cursory genuflections in the direction of the non-existent discriminatory gender pay gap just to be on the safe side.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:09 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:10 am to
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odds that these types of stories get spun as "victim blaming"?


Good.

Odds that the female economist will get derided by feminists?
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:11 am
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28117 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:11 am to
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Well thought out study. Good stuff. One of many studies that explain the gender pay gap is real, but has nothing to do with discrimination.
There is a gap, but it’s not 77 cents on the dollar. That number comes from averaging all female earnings against male earnings, regardless of profession or experience.

When compared job for job, most of the gap goes away and there is about a 5% gap. That’s very similar to the 7% gap found with Uber.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 8:12 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:14 am to
my secretary violated company policy by scheduling 3 different groupings of meetings (10am, 1pm, 4pm)

however

my secretary is me

i ate the sheep shite
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:14 am to
Yeah the gap is exaggerated for obvious reasons, but as you mentioned, it does exist. The key to these studies is the "why", and study after study shows it has everything to do with behavior and nothing to do with descrimination.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481222 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:15 am to
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They are audibly put out about their results and offer a couple of cursory genuflections in the direction of the non-existent discriminatory gender pay gap just to be on the safe side.

i love the episodes that make them squeam

the one about single parents did it, too. so many qualifications during that episode
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42780 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:15 am to
Downloading the podcast now and I’m very interested in listening to it.

Hasn’t Uber been branded as a sexists company in the past? I anticipate more after this is published
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
157323 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:16 am to
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We find that the entire gender gap is caused by three factors: a) experience on the platform (learning-by-doing), b) preferences over where/when to work, and c) preferences for driving speed. This suggests that, as the gig economy grows and brings more flexibility in employment, women’s relatively high opportunity cost of non-paid-work time and gender-based preference differences can perpetuate a gender earnings gap even in the absence of discrimination.

Well go figure. I’ll never understand why people think it’s not okay for one gender to be better at some things than the other gender. People are stupid.
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