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re: What states do you consider to be in the "the South" today?
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:04 pm to jlovel7
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:04 pm to jlovel7
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Once you get south of Fredericksburg you wouldn’t mistake yourself for being in the south.
Add Warrenton, Front Royal and south and I agree. The only thing about Virginia that isn’t south is northern Virginia and parts of the Tidewater area.
This post was edited on 5/4/19 at 9:08 pm
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:06 pm to Darth_Vader
Texas is too big and diverse. East texas, Dallas, Houston, etc are definitely southern
Can't say the same for San Antonio or El Paso
Can't say the same for San Antonio or El Paso
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:10 pm to Parmen
Texas is more of the South’s gay brother, who has a lot of money.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:13 pm to geaux88
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Virginia is an interesting state. Look at a county electoral map and it looks 90% red/rural/southern/hunting/fishing/South, but vote wise they have turned because of the massive population of blue/progressive transplants in Fairfax County and other counties close to D.C.
I'm not going to say "land doesnt vote" because that's not relevant. And land plays a factor in economics.
What matters is WHERE IS THE MAJORITY OF YOUR POPULATION and WHERE IS THE MAJORITY OF YOUR MIDDLE CLASS JOBS.
Those two factors paint the picture on how voters behave.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:15 pm to KCM0Tiger
Random worthless research: number of times each state is mentioned in Wikipedia's "Southern United States" page:
Virginia - 51
Texas - 43
Mississippi - 37
Alabama - 26
Tennessee - 24
Florida - 23
Georgia - 21
Kentucky - 18
North Carolina - 17
Arkansas - 17
Oklahoma - 17
Maryland - 15
West Virginia - 14
Louisiana - 13
South Carolina - 10
Delaware - 7
Missouri - 6
kansas - 3
Arizona - 2
California - 2
New York - 2
Indiana - 1
Ohio - 1
New Mexico - 1
Minnesota - 1
Remainder of states: 0
Virginia - 51
Texas - 43
Mississippi - 37
Alabama - 26
Tennessee - 24
Florida - 23
Georgia - 21
Kentucky - 18
North Carolina - 17
Arkansas - 17
Oklahoma - 17
Maryland - 15
West Virginia - 14
Louisiana - 13
South Carolina - 10
Delaware - 7
Missouri - 6
kansas - 3
Arizona - 2
California - 2
New York - 2
Indiana - 1
Ohio - 1
New Mexico - 1
Minnesota - 1
Remainder of states: 0
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:21 pm to RougeDawg
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RougeDawg
GIF is shite. Missouri and Kentucky seceded.
Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:40 pm to Parmen
Louisiana to Alabama south of I-10.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:54 am to KCM0Tiger
When I lived in the Midwest, I encountered more flying rebel flags and hardcore rednecks in Ohio, Indiana and parts of Michigan than I ever have living in Tennessee or traveling across the southeast, FWIW
Posted on 5/5/19 at 7:58 am to Knocksville
Redneck doesn't exclusively mean southern. There are a LOT of farmers in the midwest.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:07 am to Parmen
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Seems like the historical boundaries of what is considered southern and what is considered today to be southern is different.
I don't think you can define it by state lines anymore because northern people have been moving south and the populations are getting mixed. For example, here in Florida they like to say "The further south you go the further north you get".
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:47 am to Diver Diva
There are even good ol baws in the Southern most parts of Maryland - St Mary’s and Calvert County. Anyone who’s spent time there knows what I’m talking about. Lots of BBQ, Baptist Churches, hunting/fishing, confederate flags, people have accents, etc. It’s a lot like the rural areas of Virginia that have been discussed in this thread. I definitely wouldn’t call the entire state of Maryland southern but for those who haven’t been, y’all would be surprised about the culture in Southern Maryland. It’s completely opposite to DC and Baltimore.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 8:48 am
Posted on 5/5/19 at 8:51 am to Parmen
The thing about Kentucky is that people talk about it like it has become more northern over time...it hasn’t really changed much at all, it’s just always had way more of a toothless Appalachian feel than a southern feel.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 9:03 am to Parmen
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Is Texas considered southern?
No and never has.
"The South" consists of:
GA
AL
SC
NC
MS
LA
AR
TN
KY
virginia is a tricky one. I know about historical significance but you can consider is a "southern state" if you want without it being "The South". FL and TX definitely aren't it.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 9:04 am to Kcrad
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Texas is now The Mexico
You don’t think Texas was more Mexican in 1862?
Posted on 5/5/19 at 9:04 am to zacata88
People just need to realize that there’s a difference between South and Deep South, and don’t be so quick to dismiss a state as northern simply because it isn’t south of I-10.
This post was edited on 5/5/19 at 9:07 am
Posted on 5/5/19 at 9:06 am to PrettyLights
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People just need to realize that there’s a difference between South and Deep South
I can get on board with that too. i mentioned the state above that I'd refer to as "the south" but I think that really only GA/AL/MS/SC would be called the deep south.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 9:06 am to Parmen
Parts of Virginia (no further north than Richmond)
Parts of Kentucky (for example, Lexington and not Louisville)
Parts of Florida (panhandle and no further south than Ocala)
Tennessee
North Carolina
South Carolina
Alabama
Georgia
Mississippi
Louisiana
Arkansas
Parts of Kentucky (for example, Lexington and not Louisville)
Parts of Florida (panhandle and no further south than Ocala)
Tennessee
North Carolina
South Carolina
Alabama
Georgia
Mississippi
Louisiana
Arkansas
Posted on 5/5/19 at 10:36 am to PrettyLights
Southern Ohio is like that. I have worked in Cincinnati many times and as far as I'm concerned it is very much like a southern city.
Posted on 5/5/19 at 10:51 am to Diver Diva
Same with the southern most areas of West Virginia.
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