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re: What percent of your household salary are you willing to spend on a vehicle?

Posted on 12/19/20 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by TigerGrad2011
Member since Aug 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 8:57 pm to
I’d rather buy a shitty rental property by LSU for $90,000 than one of those vehicles
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4288 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:01 pm to
vehicles are an expense and not a “ depreciating asset“.
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3649 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:04 pm to
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vehicles are an expense and not a “ depreciating asset“.

Can’t it be both?
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
4643 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:11 pm to
Mine and the wife’s car are paid off. Will keep it that way for a long time since both vehicles are under 100k mikes
Posted by Dave_O
Member since Apr 2018
1209 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:12 pm to
I drive my wife’s old 2009 Mazda 3. For me, it’s just a means to get to work and back. I’m in the health care field, so I don’t have to impress anyone with a car. My wife drives a 16 equinox. I spend much more time at my house than in my car, so I opt for a nicer house and shittier vehicle.
Posted by GardenDistrictTiger
Fort Worth
Member since Sep 2020
2480 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:16 pm to
I have a saying that if you have to finance a car or boat. You can't afford the car or the boat. It has served me fairly well.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6394 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:25 pm to
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I have a saying that if you have to finance a car or boat. You can't afford the car or the boat. It has served me fairly well.




I used to think this way. But you can borrow money for 2-4% and over the past year, I've made over 14% in the market. So take $20, $30 or $40K out of the market where it is making me 3-4 times more than it costs me to use someone else's money? I'll keep my money in the market.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:25 pm to
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Drive crappy used cars. I'm early in my career and it's a dumb investment at this time for me. Mine are paid off




I always compound the difference in price at 7% over 65-n where n = my current age and only spend the money if I can sleep at night over what the final number is.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25199 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:27 pm to
That’s a depressing way to evaluate spend. Very few things make sense to buy when you put math like that to it.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25199 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:29 pm to
Generally, I don’t want to spend more than $50-60K on a vehicle. My current vehicle is 6 years old and cost $51K with TTL. I’ll keep it a couple more years hopefully. It’s a luxury car...and I recognize it as a want and not a need.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
104099 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:31 pm to
BRB, gotta take a picture of my Shelby Cobra in front of my single wide out in Livingston.
Posted by Fe_Mike
Member since Jul 2015
3837 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:32 pm to
I think his statement is more implying that you can’t afford it if you need to finance it. Basically, don’t buy a $40k vehicle if you’ve only got $20k in the bank. Rather than broadly saying financing is a bad idea. If I’ve got $100k in the bank and am buying a $30k car I don’t need to finance it. But I still would because of the reasons you stated.

At least I hope that’s what he’s saying.
Posted by LSUKTR
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
1489 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:34 pm to
We don’t think of it on an annual basis, it all depends on how long you keep cars. We pre-save, make earnings on the savings and pay cash. Yes I know rates are low, but this is our strategy and will still work if interest rates go up. We save ~3.5% of salary towards vehicles and keep them ~8yrs.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 9:35 pm
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:35 pm to
I have never had the desire to have a nice car. I don't get it. I drive a Civic and it gets me where I need to go. What is a nicer car doing for you?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42370 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:35 pm to
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it's a dumb investment


Not an investment at all actually

You are on right track
Posted by madamsquirrel
The big somewhere out there
Member since Jul 2009
56275 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:37 pm to
We spent less than 50% of annual on total and note is less than 10% of monthly and kept our last vehicles 15 years. Have the money to pay it off and make more with our money in the market. But it still pisses me off to pay a note (with almost no interest). The other car was inexpensively replaced with cash but we take road trips so one of the cars should be nice
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 10:02 pm
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14589 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:43 pm to
Personally I think 20% of gross household income provides a good balance of both vehicle comfort and financial responsibility. So if your household income is $100k, your out the door vehicle price should be $20k. If vehicles are really important to you then you could make an argument for 25%.. But once you get into 30%+ you are probably overspending for luxuries to the detriment of your finances.

I think this is a pretty good rule of thumb for a majority of household incomes and family situations. If you are single I think you can add 10% to all numbers above. So 30% would be reasonable and 40%+ would be overspending..

Also, I am sure my opinion is not shared by many.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:44 pm to
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Very few things make sense to buy when you put math like that to it.



Exactly. I need very little. And robbing future me of $40k to upgrade packages on a car sure makes it easier to skip some bells and whistles. I'm no miser, but it helps put cost in perspective for me.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19393 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:45 pm to
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I have noticed a ton of the 2021 Yukon Denalis and Z71 Tahoes rolling around my Louisiana town lately. The dealerships aren’t really taking any money off these vehicles so everyone’s paying about $90k with TTL.

What’s your rule of thumb, 10%, 15%, 20% or more of your household salary?

I think I like to keep it around 20% but that means you would need to make $450k in household income to comfortably buy this vehicle. Maybe there’s more people making $500k+ a year in this state than I originally thought.



If I bought a 90k vehicle I’ll trade in one that’s worth 30k to 50k and put enough money down to have a payment under $700 a month for 5 years. It’s very easy for my wife and I to drive very nice cars and have $1500 to $2000 a month and be at 4% of our monthly gross income.

My wife’s car was 97k MSRP and I bought it 2 years ago for 72k with 6700 miles on it. Got 27k on trade and put enough money down for a $650 payment for 5 years.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25199 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 9:46 pm to
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What is a nicer car doing for you?


It’s a nicer, more refined experience. No more, no less. Some value that nicer comfort, better acceleration, smoother ride, etc. while others do not.

As with all consumer goods, there isn’t a right or wrong answer. It’s personal preference.
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