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re: What kind of engineer are you 2 update in OP

Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:30 pm to
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98408 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:30 pm to
Told my son Bach in engineering then a top 50 law school
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57944 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:31 pm to
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power engineering.

It's going to determine what everything else does
do you know what civil is?
Posted by TigerHornII
Member since Feb 2021
851 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:33 pm to
Undergrad in engineering is where you go to grow up and build your foundation. The MS is the money round. You need to pick a top 100 or so school for undergrad, doesn't matter much which one, make your grades, and then go to a top 10-15 school for your MS, choosing your advisor carefully.

I used to be a ME, MS in ME and in Business. Topped out in mid/high six figures in the exec ranks, now sort of coasting down as an investment banker nearing retirement.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
14574 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:36 pm to
electrical power systems focusing power transmission and distribution, i know the ins and outs of the power grid

8 years experience, income is enough to live comfortably
This post was edited on 8/21/24 at 9:38 pm
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58395 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:40 pm to
I am a 30-year mechanical and make about a hundy and a quarter.

IMO, ME is the most versatile of the disciplines. Probably not the best if you want to open your own consulting business, though.
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
732 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 9:50 pm to
What advice do you engineers have for a second year civil engineering major at LSU?
When should my son be looking for internships and how?
What are the best paths coming out after graduation?
Posted by jcliv
Boise, ID
Member since Jan 2006
128 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:03 pm to
LSUeeAlum, my son just finished his EE and is working in power. He wanted me to ask you ‘should I stay on the operations side or is planning where it’s at?’ Granted he’s just out of school and on the job for 4 months…
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2470 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:16 pm to
Civil
Small firm, sacrifice pay for perks
20 years
$125k-150k
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
2739 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:36 pm to
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Second, being the most popular doesn’t mean they’re being pushed into it by the colleges. The most popular overall major is business administration. Do you think colleges are pushing people to major in business?

Yea... have you seen a college lately?

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1. Using mean instead of median salary numbers is a pretty embarrassing mistake from a university’s college of engineering.

Mean is valid as it represents the impact of extremely high earners, median could be bimodal.

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The best and brightest ChE and ME grads are, by and large, not technical engineers over the long term. They become project managers, or plant managers, or business developers, or directors, or they start their own firms. This is especially true in chemical engineering, where the people who are still process engineers after 10-15 years are often (not always, to be clear) the ones who couldn’t move up the ladder.


I think you are making my point, the author stated that his cousin was looking into engineering. You are saying there isnt much job market for the Best ME and ChE as engineers.

If you want to talk about him moving into management then the underlying degree is of little use.

I'd still note that the best and brightest ME and ChE are not in management.
Posted by TSS_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
236 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:37 pm to
Afro… doesn’t pay well my KPI’s are “close enough “
Posted by StanSmith
Member since May 2018
1023 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:38 pm to
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Tell your cousin to stay out of oil and gas. It’s like the Mob. You make a good living. You get to see some really cool stuff and they try to bump you off fairly regularly.


MechEng with 25 years in oil and gas. Stay away from the oilfield. I am on the down hill slope of my career and it's been tough the last 9 years. I'm ready to retire within the next 5 years.
Pretty much any engineering job is what you make of it. Don't go into it for the money unless you have an aptitude for it. I've worked with a few Mech Eng that were smart enough but only picked it because their dad was one.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11703 posts
Posted on 8/21/24 at 10:57 pm to
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Mean is valid as it represents the impact of extremely high earners, median could be bimodal.

It’s not valid, which is why BLS’ own website (the source of the data) reports medians and not means.

It doesn’t matter though, because as I’ve said BLS data is reported by job description and not degree. A rotating equipment engineer or a reliability engineer with a mechanical engineering degree doesn’t necessarily get reported as a “mechanical engineer.” A controls & automation engineer or a process safety engineer with a ChE degree doesn’t get reported as a “chemical engineer.”
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I think you are making my point, the author stated that his cousin was looking into engineering. You are saying there isnt much job market for the Best ME and ChE as engineers.

That’s not at all what I said, and it undermines the point of yours that I was replying to in the first place.
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If you want to talk about him moving into management then the underlying degree is of little use.

Congratulations. This is, quite honestly, the dumbest statement I’ve read all day. And that’s truly an accomplishment. An engineer saying an engineering degree is “of little use” to move into management is just… wow.

The overwhelming response you will get when you ask ChE grads with really successful careers about the value of their degree will be some combination of “it taught me to think about things in a different way” and “it opened up a ton of doors for me.”

The idea that a ChE degree is useless if you aren’t a process engineer is so utterly stupid I’m struggling to put the reason into words. So I think I’ll just bow out now.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
9490 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:37 am to
Redneck
20+ years of trial and error
My motto, "It'll hold."
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
6003 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 12:48 am to
Chemical and Biomolecular
But my job is in Industrial out side sales as as a strategic account manager. I make 85k a year base plus a company car with unlimited gas and usage plus bonuses and incentives. Lots of freedom and I love it better than being a plant baw. Plus I get a USMC retirement check and 100% VA disability so the less than normal salary is fine.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
10839 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 5:33 am to
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Told my son Bach in engineering then a top 50 law school


That's what my brother did. Easy route to get into patent/IP law.
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7552 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 6:11 am to
Chemical
20
I live comfortably
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8302 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 6:19 am to
Our youngest graduated from UofAla with a degree in Civil Engineering this past May.
Currently works for a Company who builds Steele Structures. Starting pay is 132k.

Posted by pweezy
Member since Oct 2018
407 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 6:29 am to
EE for 16 years in design/construction field. I always try to encourage doing something versatile like EE or ME just because you can work in so many different fields. That being said I get more ME resumes than anything now, it’s clearly a popular field.

As mentioned there is a huge shortage of EE’s doing power. That will always be in demand. Believe it or not we have had trouble hiring Civil’s recently.

Experience is more valuable than a masters in my field.
Posted by YouKnowImRight
Member since Oct 2023
2138 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 6:39 am to
Electrical is more stable and presents more diverse options, so it's less susceptible to market changes. Skillsets apply to a broader base of industries so if O&G go through a recession, you have tons of options.

Don't get a masters in engineering unless he wants to teach. If he wants to advance, get an MBA and go into leadership.

If he's happy being an engineer, experience far outweighs a masters.

But to answer the OPs question, a shitty one.

Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
400 posts
Posted on 8/22/24 at 7:07 am to
Civil 28 years make about $150k working part time
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