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What is this doom text I just received from CVS pharmacy about PBM's?

Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
17199 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:44 pm
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In 2011, CVS Caremark Rx was the nation's second-largest PBM. It was subject to a class action lawsuit in Tennessee, which alleged that Caremark kept discounts from drug manufacturers instead of sharing them with member benefit plans, secretly negotiated rebates for drugs and kept the money, and provided plan members with more expensive drugs when less expensive alternatives were available. CVS Caremark paid $20 million to three states over fraud allegations








Seems like it has something to do with PBM (Pharma Benefits Managers)

quote:

Driving HB264 forward has been Bass, a 44-year-old Allstate agent who is the vice chair of the insurance committee. Sen. Kirk Talbot, R-Harahan, the committee chair, deputized Bass to try to fashion a bill that could win legislative approval.

Bass said he concluded that pharmacy benefit managers were using their power to block some drugs from coming to market and that employers and consumers are not receiving enough of the discounts negotiated by pharmacy benefit managers with drug manufacturers.

Bass said he met with lobbyists from all sides and worked until midnight with legislative staff late on Monday and Tuesday night to confect the final language for changes in HB264.


Looks like I found an explanation:
https://www.nola.com/news/politics/louisiana-senators-propose-new-model-for-prescription-drugs/article_ddaf6e71-21f0-47ab-8933-8ca1800fc4cc.amp.html


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Pharmacy Benefit Managers (PBMs) face criticism due to concerns about their impact on drug costs, patient access, and the health care system. Specifically, PBMs are criticized for practices like spread pricing, conflicts of interest, lack of transparency, and monopolistic practices that can lead to higher drug prices, fewer options for patients, and potentially harm to independent pharmacies.


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The three largest pharmacy benefit managers (PBMs) in the U.S. are CVS Caremark, Cigna's Express Scripts, and UnitedHealth Group's Optum Rx. These three PBMs collectively account for approximately 80% of all prescription claims.




This post was edited on 6/12/25 at 8:27 am
Posted by ItzMe1972
Member since Dec 2013
11556 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:47 pm to
CVS is closing stores nationwide.

They lost money printing receipts.

This post was edited on 6/11/25 at 3:50 pm
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
6407 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:47 pm to
I'm really struggling to find sympathy for CVS. Even less so if they started sending me doom texts.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
16514 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:47 pm to
I’ve gotten texts from other drug stores too
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13158 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:50 pm to
Does this help or hurt small independent pharmacies?
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10520 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:50 pm to
CVS is the most overpriced pharmacy I’ve ever seen.
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1372 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:51 pm to
If a big box store is scared, it helps small local pharmacies.
Posted by dyslexiateechur
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
34578 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:52 pm to
I have cvs Caremark. Wondering how it’ll affect that.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
17199 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:53 pm to
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Does this help or hurt small independent pharmacies?


Looks like these PBM guys are working for the corporate pharmacy companies - CVS, Walgreens, etc. They're delaying cheaper drugs in order to keep prices high.

Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21792 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:55 pm to
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CVS is the most overpriced pharmacy I’ve ever seen

Yep. I went to pick up some medicine for my mom a while back. She uses CVS and when they told .e the price for the couple of medications I almost hit the floor. One is the same exact BP medicine I take at the same dosage and I get it for $3 from Walmart. Hers was $26.

I told her she should immediately switch pharmacies but she just won't do it.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
46214 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:56 pm to
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CVS is the most overpriced pharmacy I’ve ever seen.


and more importantly the absolute worst to deal with.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10520 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

Does this help or hurt small independent pharmacies?
Supposed to help.
Posted by SallysHuman
With Sally
Member since Jan 2025
4016 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 3:56 pm to
frick CVS

Never would tell me what Rx costs until they ring it up. And those receipts, Lord save the trees!
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40893 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:27 pm to
As much as the pharmacies are bitching I can only assume this is a good thing.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9363 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:29 pm to
frick CVS.
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
Lafayette
Member since May 2013
12081 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 5:09 pm to
Bring back Eckerd's pharmacy!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33287 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 5:13 pm to
Means you might save money on prescriptions. I have 3 prescriptions. They used to be at CVS....then I went to my local pharmacy and saved more than half.


frick 'em
Posted by EastWestConnection
Denver/Shenzhen/Belfast
Member since Jul 2024
252 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 5:15 pm to
he worked until MIDNIGHT?? Oh my god that poor poor man
Posted by SallysHuman
With Sally
Member since Jan 2025
4016 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 5:16 pm to
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and more importantly the absolute worst to deal with.


I personally find Walgreens to be worse.
Posted by EastWestConnection
Denver/Shenzhen/Belfast
Member since Jul 2024
252 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 5:16 pm to
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Means you might save money on prescriptions. I have 3 prescriptions. They used to be at CVS....then I went to my local pharmacy and saved more than half.



I just switched to a local pharmacy and have no idea why anyone still goes to Walgreens and CVS. Those big places are rude and slow, and I get a better deal at the local place. Not to mention CVS has twice given me someone else's medication.
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