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re: What is the max pitch count for a 10 yr old?
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:20 pm to BowDownToLSU
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:20 pm to BowDownToLSU
What kind of velocity does he have?
If he isnt hitting 70 on the gun by 10 he might as well hang up his cleats and focus on tennis or something
If he isnt hitting 70 on the gun by 10 he might as well hang up his cleats and focus on tennis or something
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:09 pm to BowDownToLSU
Basing it on innings is the dumbest concept on the planet. For a 10 year old I guess 75 pitches is ok. But the kid needs rest. You generally need 1 hour per pitch of rest. It is the result of pressure on the arm with the slope of the mound. Most arm issues of high school kids isn’t because of too many pitches, it is a lack of rest between outings and not enough solid rest in the off season. Generally you want 2-3 months of no throwing at all. The problem is year round travel ball is destroying arms before they are mature.
/end rant
/end rant
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:13 pm to DownSouthCrawfish
quote:and the xwOBA of the batters hes faced
I need to know his K%, BB%, HR/9, BABIP, GB%, FIP, xFIP, and WAR first.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 12:28 am to HottyToddy7
Also, pitch count can be misleading.
His arm could be fatigued long before he gets to the magic number of pitches.
With him throwing solely Fastballs and changeups pull him when he loses control of the fastball or you see notable changes in his mechanics.
His arm could be fatigued long before he gets to the magic number of pitches.
With him throwing solely Fastballs and changeups pull him when he loses control of the fastball or you see notable changes in his mechanics.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:04 am to theenemy
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His arm could be fatigued long before he gets to the magic number of pitches.
With him throwing solely Fastballs and changeups pull him when he loses control of the fastball or you see notable changes in his mechanics.
Obviously, but the OP's question was max number. The max number by rule is 75
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:12 am to BowDownToLSU
Number of pitches doesn't matter. Just make sure you get him in for his TJ by the time he's 12 so he can recover in time for high school ball.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:14 am to Obtuse1
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About 75 for a 10yo
Max but as an ex-pitcher that's had a shitload of arm issues, I'd make 50-60 max.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:16 am to BowDownToLSU
About 50. And if the game is moving along cut his warmups, just have him soft toss a littke between innings. Then no
More than 700 pitches in the wiffle ball game the rest of the day
More than 700 pitches in the wiffle ball game the rest of the day
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:20 am to BowDownToLSU
I don't think you can rely on pitch counts on kids that small. If the kid is cruising and getting people out he is likely ok but as soon as he starts laboring... walks a few, throws a few in the dirt, etc. he needs to come out immediately. It's really so insanely obvious but so many of us like to call that gut check time but really that's when his arm is toast and he needs to come out and start icing.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:31 am to BowDownToLSU
at that age i would hold count way down. would also look at innings.
youth leagues tend to have long innings, so a pitcher sits on the bench waiting for his team to bat around and get 3 outs, all the while his arm is "cooling off" and stiffening up. this puts more strain on the muscles/tendons.
it it was my son, 2-3 innings a game/day with no more the 60-70 pitches, and then a 3 day rest before pitching again....
better yet, have him play one of the infield positions and just not pitch....
youth leagues tend to have long innings, so a pitcher sits on the bench waiting for his team to bat around and get 3 outs, all the while his arm is "cooling off" and stiffening up. this puts more strain on the muscles/tendons.
it it was my son, 2-3 innings a game/day with no more the 60-70 pitches, and then a 3 day rest before pitching again....
better yet, have him play one of the infield positions and just not pitch....
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:37 am to RoscoeHarper
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Number of pitches doesn't matter. Just make sure you get him in for his TJ by the time he's 12 so he can recover in time for high school ball.
I've already had it done three times on Braxtdun. He had his first at 5. We told him he we were going for pizza. Sure, he cried a little bit, but winners gotta sacrifice.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:40 am to TigerstuckinMS
Once he starts easing through the physical therapy, and breaking the adhesions from the surgery, and he hears that catcher's mitt pop with that fastball he'll glance at you with such an adoring look in his eyes.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 9:42 am to LCA131
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Once he starts easing through the physical therapy, and breaking the adhesions from the surgery, and he hears that catcher's mitt pop with that fastball he'll glance at you with such an adoring look in his eyes.
He'd better not if he knows what's good for him. Eyes on the catcher. Focus.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 9:43 am
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:14 am to BowDownToLSU
Does the league not have a rule? When I was that age I think our max was like 60 pitches per game. But you also couldn't pitch more than like 8 innings per week. Not sure on that innings number exactly, but I do remember a limit on innings per week. Also, the 60/game rule. They really stayed on top of that shite too.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:16 am to TigerstuckinMS
No crying in baseball, make him run the bleachers
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:16 am to BowDownToLSU
Pitch count don’t matter on a 10 year old
Tell him not to throw anything but fastballs and changeups
Tell him not to throw anything but fastballs and changeups
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:32 am to BowDownToLSU
USSSA rule was if a kid pitched 3 complete innings on saturday, he couldnt pitch sunday. I dont remember there being a pitch count. I would say no more than 100.
Posted on 3/19/19 at 10:55 am to BowDownToLSU
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What is the max pitch count for a 10 yr old? by BowDownToLSU
75 is MAX.
That's a lot for a young arm, especially since the likelihood of a certified and proper process of training his arm and properly treating his arm weekly is not present.
I played D1 and pitched...so I have a little bit of relevant input I suppose.
This post was edited on 3/19/19 at 11:00 am
Posted on 3/19/19 at 11:03 am to BowDownToLSU
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Posted on 3/19/19 at 11:11 am to BowDownToLSU
I've had a dad tell me that since his 11 year old son only threw fastballs and changeups, he could go for around 200 pitches. I explained that if he threw that many pitches, either we were losing big or in the 24th inning. he didn't understand.
I'd keep it around 50-60 and have him recover on following days
I'd keep it around 50-60 and have him recover on following days
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