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re: What is the benefit of LSU's new +/- grade scale?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:36 am to Volvagia
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:36 am to Volvagia
quote:I think this is far less true in college. In fact, in a course I taught in grad school, those with higher critical-thinking (as an IQ proxy) completed more "effort only" work.
Most college students on the upper end of the intelligence curve study at the last minute. Most of my friends didn't even open a book till the day of in some cases.
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:45 am to buckeye_vol
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Regardless, it adds accuracy to the grades. An 89.4 is qualitatively different than a 79.5, so grades should reflect that differences.
I agree, even though it would've negatively affected my GPA as well.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:48 am to SpqrTiger
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But within the A students, you can do your best and still not get the A+. Maybe you have a tough grader. Maybe you have someone who just doesn't hand out 100's, ever. I think what we have here is LSU thinks it's been handing out too many University Medals lately, so they need to cut back on the number of 4.0's.
The power trip instructor element is the one negative about the nebulous a+
Especially how the university medal is done overall rather than by major. Makes it a crap shoot that is achievement with a significant luck component.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:15 pm to Scruffy
There's no way he can have a 2.7 with 4 B's and 1 A. The lowest A is 3.7 and the lowest B is 2.7 so he will have over a 2.7 even if his B's are B-'s and his A is an A-.
ETA: Didn't see someone already said this.
ETA: Didn't see someone already said this.
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:40 pm to TunaTime
1). How many will lose tops?
2). What happens to grades for those who transfer from a school that doesn't use the plus/minus system?
2). What happens to grades for those who transfer from a school that doesn't use the plus/minus system?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 7:48 pm to tiger91
quote:Well what would have happened if they transferred from a + - system before the change?
What happens to grades for those who transfer from a school that doesn't use the plus/minus system?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:12 pm to buckeye_vol
I'm assuming an A was an A and still 4 quality points. I'm assuming it's the same BUT I hate assuming.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:21 pm to Scruffy
4 Bs and 1 A can also equate to a 3.49
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:32 pm to tiger91
This is from the FAQs on the undergraduate admissions page:
quote:
Your GPA will be calculated on all transferable courses (i.e. academic, non-vocational, and non-remedial) from regionally accredited colleges or universities. Your GPA will include failing grades, repeated courses, withdrawals, and incompletes. Plus/minus grade designations will be factored into the GPA calculation beginning with students who apply for the spring 2016 semester.
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 12/7/15 at 8:52 pm to TDsngumbo
quote:It's more accurate so who benefits or doesn't benefit is relatively irrelevant. Besides the majority of Universities use that system anyways so LSU is just getting aligned with the typical grading system.
Absolutely nobody benefits.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:03 pm to TDsngumbo
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If you all knew 25% of the shite I know about the inner workings of LSU and just how decisions are made
It needs to become board policy, under threat of banning, that everybody who says something like this has to give at least one juicy example.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 9:07 pm to Scruffy
Advantages:
Getting a 100 or an 89 helps you more than a 91 or an 82. The downside is you get punished for that 91
Getting a 100 or an 89 helps you more than a 91 or an 82. The downside is you get punished for that 91
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:17 pm to buckeye_vol
So an "A" from one university will not get 4 quality points when transferring if I'm understanding it correctly.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:20 pm to TDsngumbo
How exactly does no one benefit? Anybody that gets a bunch of 78s and 88s benefits. They get C+s and B+s instead of Cs and Bs.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:24 pm to lsumatt
lsumatt!! Dude, I still remember YOU are the reason why I bought "reserves" for $5 each back in 2007 ... bought 2 and paid $15 plus face value for my 2 tickets to the BCSCG. 
(Still remember my husbands reaction when I told him I bought them ... and then when he realized I had indeed NOT wasted $15!!)
(Still remember my husbands reaction when I told him I bought them ... and then when he realized I had indeed NOT wasted $15!!)
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:27 pm to lsumatt
quote:There seems to be a number of people basing this on their coasting to a grade; however, that assumes that they would coast with this new grading scheme. Furthermore, if may actually show the benefit of differentiating the grades.
How exactly does no one benefit? Anybody that gets a bunch of 78s and 88s benefits. They get C+s and B+s instead of Cs and Bs.
In addition, people are also using an argument that people will lose their TOPS scholarship. This is an especially strange argument because they are advocating FOR continued mediocrity, and worse yet, on the public's dime.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:43 pm to tiger91
Hope you got your Texas bowl tickets for $5!
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:44 pm to Scruffy
Follow the money.....
It will only mean a lower G.P.A for the vast majority of students. So the schools saves money. Some professors have been doing it a long time.
It will only mean a lower G.P.A for the vast majority of students. So the schools saves money. Some professors have been doing it a long time.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 10:49 pm to CoastTrashTiger
Why is it a lower gpa for the "vast majority" of students? There are as many B+s as there are B-s. It is a virtual wash.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:05 pm to CoastTrashTiger
quote:You're just making this up. Although there are only a few studies that I could find quickly on my phone (one was a pharmacy program change; LINK LINK) the impact is not near as significant as your histrionics imply. It seems the harder majors are least impacted.
It will only mean a lower G.P.A for the vast majority of students. So the schools saves money. Some professors have been doing it a long time.
As it seems you are a college student, maybe this will be a good chance for you to learn to base your views on evidence not emotion. Otherwise, it doesn't matter what grading scale is used, poor and overly emotional reasoning is not a recipe for success.
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