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Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:34 pm to
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:34 pm to
Ghosting is when they don't respond I thought. Either way, I stopped texting her. It's done for now.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:34 pm to
Beautifully said. Well done.
Posted by Bootyrich
Mandeville
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:34 pm to
Tupac is still alive
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
110678 posts
Posted on 4/3/16 at 2:41 pm to
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Like protons, neutrons and electrons. How do we know they exist? How many of you have seen one?


My concern is midichlorians. How do we detect them, and more importantly count them? I, for one, would like to know if we've got another potential Darth Vader on the horizon.
Posted by IceTiger
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:00 pm to
I thought ghosting is not formally living where you say you're living...
In a sentence:
I've been ghosting since I've been crashing at my gf's place.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:01 pm to
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I'm assuming "proof" requires evidence


Proof is evidence
Posted by BamaChemE
Midland, TX
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:05 pm to
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That's ghosting bro


I believe the term your looking for is "The Fade Away"

Garfunkle and Oates "The Fade Away"
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:06 pm to
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Nothing to update yet. I realized I didn't get "ghosted". She responded, but the responses got shorter and farther. I stopped texting her then.


That's called the "friendly fade".
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:08 pm to
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Nothing to update yet. I realized I didn't get "ghosted". She responded, but the responses got shorter and farther. I stopped texting her then.

so you started a threat stating the girl stopped responding, the thread really wasn't favorable for you, and now you're saying she didn't stop but you actually stopped texting?

Surely you can understand if one thinks that sounds a bit fishy.
This post was edited on 4/3/16 at 3:09 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:11 pm to
Do you even natural law, breh?
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:12 pm to
Proof is subjective. Your ideology of proof would differ from someone else based upon knowledge of something or life experience. I think it's what a reasonable person could determine would be/ could be possible or applicable to a situation.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:13 pm to
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evidence


That convinces one to form a belief.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:14 pm to
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Do you even natural law, breh?


wut
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:16 pm to
Something in pudding.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 3:22 pm to
If someone is stealing and you have video of them stealing, thats fricking proof my friend.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:00 pm to
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What about nucleons?


Protons and neutrons? Their existence is pretty well-documented too. I didn't do anything with protons specifically but did work with slow neutron sources for awhile.

Atomic bombs wouldn't work without a detailed understanding of the nucleus.
Posted by Beetlejuice
Member since Apr 2013
578 posts
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:01 pm to
More of this hipster bullshite...

Nobody fricking cares. Eat a bag of bloody assholes.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:10 pm to
Particularly the strong nuclear force. It's very abstract. It's the force that holds protons together in the nucleus given their repulsion.

And my point was that very few people testify to seeing protons, neutrons, and electrons. They generally accept this because a professor or book claims that they exist. Thus, the questioning of proof.

I don't think you can prove God exists, but I also don't believe you can prove that evolution occurred or the Bug Bang. It's not demonstrable.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
3384 posts
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:21 pm to
quote:


I'm assuming "proof" requires evidence, but what is evidence? Does it have to be quantifiable? What if the "evidence" conflicts? Is that "proof"?


Proof presupposes a reason or premise. Evidence is a data point that only exists as evidence in the context of trying to prove something. Footprints leading to a window might be a meaningless data point; they might be evidence if a burglary occurred in that house. It isn't a matter of relativism as much as context. A given argument might require certain kinds of proof. Certain kinds of proof require certain kinds of evidence. Certain kinds of evidence require collection by different means: the five senses, tools that expand the reach of the five senses (microscopes, telescopes, seismographs, etc.), deductive and/or inductive logic, probably others.

To the poster Joshryn: Your dismissal of Aquinas' proofs don't rise to any satisfactory level of evidence and don't constitute proof that they are incorrect. They are your opinion and you're entitled to that opinion. And, frankly, I'm not interested in convincing you otherwise... But, since I'm singling you out, I'll offer at least one counterpoint:

Regarding your dismissal of point #4 "as silliness". Proof of degrees of perfection is a nod to Plato's Theory of Forms. We cannot draw a perfect circle. At some point, down to molecular or smaller level, there will be an imperfection. Similarly, while we can draw line segments, it isn't even possible to draw an actual line or ray, though we have logical proof of their existence. Perfection in various qualities such as nobility are similarly abstract; we can see examples of people that are more and less good, noble, etc. But the perfect ideal of such qualities necessarily exists beyond physical limitation.

In fact, the Platonic ideal provides adequate logic to refute nearly every one of your points. You rebutted the first 3 proofs with the same line, "Also applies to God." In the example above, when you go beyond the limited, imperfect circle to the Platonic... or mathematically... perfect ideal of a circle, there is not a logical progression you can take from there. There is not a way to take an ideal, perfect circle and make it more perfect. This is the end of logic. So it is with the other stated proofs. It is possible to deductively prove them to the point Aquinas reaches. There is no proof whatsoever for the notions you strive to support.
Posted by Beetlejuice
Member since Apr 2013
578 posts
Posted on 4/3/16 at 10:23 pm to
Enough with giant fricking walls of text.

Nobody is reading that bullshite.
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