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re: What in the actual frick - 4 day school weeks
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:34 am to 777Tiger
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:34 am to 777Tiger
quote:my mom hates it so she switched careers, not sure why the teachers that complain, stay
my mom was a school teacher, loved it,
quote:what about child birth at home?? (Jk
stay at home mom is the hardest job in the world and the there's no greater pain then child birth
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:36 am to Rip Torner
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They should make 75k for the crap they put up with.
Its a choice they as individuals make.
The hours, parents and pay is a choice they make for a career.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:36 am to LSUFanHouston
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Or, just admit reality, which is that the vast majority of teachers, admins, parents , and students know exactly who the good and bad teachers are.
Fact. I’ve told anyone who would listen for years that the way teachers are evaluated doesn’t give a true picture of effectiveness. Ask the students (and involved parents, if you like). They are in the teachers’ classrooms every day. This would give a much more accurate picture of teacher effectiveness than a once-per-semester, one period observation.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:41 am to High C
quote:y’all are starting to understand why education is completely broken. You can be an effective, concerned, dedicated teacher who gets real results but the teacher tgst checks bixes and teaches memorizing some standardized test gets the better assessment
I’ve told anyone who would listen for years that the way teachers are evaluated doesn’t give a true picture of effectiveness. Ask the students (and involved parents, if you like). They are in the teachers’ classrooms every day. This would give a much more accurate picture of teacher effectiveness than a once-per-semester, one period observation.
We basically judge our kids the same way.
Understanding material is not the goal. Taking the test is.
My kids are either straight As or close and I am appalled at their ability to write more than a paragraph.
I’ve had them writing this summer. It is slightly better
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:42 am to GreenRockTiger
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what about child birth at home??
different animal right there, my parents and all of their siblings were born at home(different homes,) on their respective kitchen tables
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:43 am to FLTech
To pull this back on the 4 day topic…
If teachers work so much after school and after work, how about we do the 4 days schedule for students and then the teachers all come in on that 5th day for the full day so they don’t have to work at home after hours.
They could do all of their planning, and grading, and copy making, and meetings on that Friday.
I suspect that the teachers don’t really want that. They just want an extra day off.
If teachers work so much after school and after work, how about we do the 4 days schedule for students and then the teachers all come in on that 5th day for the full day so they don’t have to work at home after hours.
They could do all of their planning, and grading, and copy making, and meetings on that Friday.
I suspect that the teachers don’t really want that. They just want an extra day off.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 11:45 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:43 am to 777Tiger
I have friends who’ve had their kids at home
They don’t complain and they’re stay at home moms too
They don’t complain and they’re stay at home moms too
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:44 am to BigBinBR
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To pull this back on the 4 day topic… If teachers work so much after school and after work, how about we do the 4 days schedule for students and then the teachers all come in on that 5th day for the full day so they don’t have to work at home. They could do all of their planning, and grading, and copy making, and meetings on that Friday.
Honestly I would rather this than just being free to have an extra day off. Our district did it with Wednesdays the year after covid (unfortunately we were one of the ones that went virtual most of the year) for half days and it was nice having the quiet time for a couple hours to focus and plan things out.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 11:46 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Its a choice they as individuals make. The hours, parents and pay is a choice they make for a career.
It’s an easier choice for qualified individuals who can make double or triple the pay elsewhere.
I don’t have the answers, but I do wonder how many very good teachers are simply doing something else.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:45 am to GreenRockTiger
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They don’t complain and they’re stay at home moms too
I suspect it's mostly the stay at home moms that are posting on FB from Starbuck's while the kids are at day school or with the nanny and the maid is cleaning the house
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:46 am to FLTech
Let's all dodge the issue - shitty kids with disinterested or nonexistent parents who ruin school for everyone else.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:48 am to chinhoyang
I’ve met maybe a handful of teachers so incredible it didn’t matter if all their students had shitty parents. So that’s a decent point.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:50 am to auyushu
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Until no child behind goes away nothing will ever change
This. 100%>
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:53 am to FLTech
I’m for a lot of things involving school reform. Not sure a four day week is good or bad. The summer break needs to be cut in half. Too much brain drain takes place during the summer especially the young kinds. The school day needs to be cut in half. Kids are in school way too long in a single day. They’re capable of about 3-4 hours a learning max, after that their heads explode. 75% of the school day is babysitting.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:57 am to Motownsix
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The summer break needs to be cut in half. Too much brain drain takes place during the summer
Its called the summer slide, and its very minimal and has no long term affect on overall learning. I think it amounts to one month overall, which can be fixed easily by reading a book or two during break.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 11:58 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:57 am to FLTech
From all the down votes, it appears there are a lot of OT who receive government school paychecks.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
I love the board’s logic: education is important and our schools are terrible but let’s pay them beans because they know what they are getting into out of college. As opposed to paying them well and attracting talented teachers while weeding out the crappy ones because there would be plenty of applicants instead of massive shortages today
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:59 am to Tantal
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4 10's are great for adults. My fear is that the last 2-3 hours are going to wasted with kids. Of course the teachers are more concerned with their 3-day weekend than whether or not their students can read or do math
Picture yourself even as an adult doing an 8-10 training in one day where you are learning new material you’re supposed to master. The adult brain would tire long before that. Children basically go insane.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:12 pm to BigBinBR
You’re not entirely right but close enough I get your point and you’re right most teachers don’t have much more than a 40 hr work week. I think the major headaches are the students at most places. I’m just a coach though so I can’t lie my workday is cake I just have to be there until 5 or 6 most days and I only get 2 weeks off in summer
Posted on 7/15/23 at 12:15 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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I’m just a coach though so I can’t lie my workday is cake
most of the coaches at my hs would play handball, tennis, lift weights, or bang some the young girls or student teachers all day, even worse when their sport wasn't in season, a few, very few, had secondary assignments
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