re: What in the actual frick - 4 day school weeks

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They get fricking 3 months off in the Summer,

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Not sure what year you are living in. Teachers get off month of june and 2 weeks july for summer

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school day should be 9-5.

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you forgetting the blue collar trade workers

needs to be 7-3 so it covers everyone, not just office workers

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y’all are starting to understand why education is completely broken

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No, I’m not “starting” to understand. I’ve taught in a public school classroom for 28 years. I’ve seen things devolve. I fully understand.

The work schedule you get about the same done. 2 breaks on 8s vs 3 on 10s plus 10 minutes before and after. I love 10s more money but it’s not that much more productive.

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It's easy to point fingers from afar, but teaching is extremely stressful and one of the toughest jobs out there. I would attempt to explain, but your ignorant comments clearly shows you're one of those "know it all" people, so I won't waste my energy!

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I would not call it "one of the toughest jobs out there"...

I would say that it is more stressful than most jobs.
I would also say that teaching requires more responsibility than any job with a comparable salary.

I would also argue that the duties/tasks required of teachers are far greater that any job of a similar salary, but also more than most jobs, period. Most people would consider just the planning aspect of teaching on par with their full time work load, and that represents about a third of what teachers do.

This is why a former teacher who was halfway good at teaching is valued almost anywhere else. We've been through it and most other jobs would be considered a walk in the park. But don't get me wrong. There are shitty teachers who do the bare minimum at every turn.

So ultimately, when you frame it that way, it is a career in which one is overworked, underpaid, and undervalued.

They need the break(s) and they don't get paid for the breaks. And while the job security is there, no good teacher would ever assume that they're doing a good job. This is another topic for a different day.

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So much depends on the kids and environment.

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This is true. It could be absolute hell.

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Anyone with a pulse can get a teaching certificate.

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Most jobs don't require that much. You could also replace "teaching certificate" with MBA.

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They get fricking 3 months off in the Summer, and another month of Holidays during the school year. An 8 month work schedule, and now they need a 4 day week? How fragile are these people?

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Off shore workers are off 6 months, EVERY OTHER week and make 3x what teachers make.

Let's just get this out of the way.
With standard "bank" holidays and 2 to 4 weeks of vacation
most professionals work 230 to 240 days per year. Or, about 65% of the time.

Teachers work 182 days per year. Or, about 50% of the time.

I think most of the difference lies in one's ability to totally mess around while at work. I've worked at plants, I've worked on the pipelines, and I taught for nine years.

When you're teaching, you're not messing around too much and you're always responsible for children or teenagers. It's really a performative job if you're doing it right, and it takes more energy than many would realize. The planning periods are often quite full with what the administration has scheduled for you. If you're a coach then your mind is probably on that as well as classes. Planning, scheduling, grading, making new material, submitting lesson plans, analyzing/comparing data, emailing/calling parents (Good God), etc. It really never ends.

There's a lot of down time in corporate America.
Think about when you get into the office, and think about how you probably ease into your day after a cup of coffee and morning headlines, only to start on something around 8:45 or later.

Then before you know it, you're taking an extended lunch only to fool around some more before you do a bit of afternoon work. Maybe you're productive for the last hour of the day, maybe you're not...

Don't get me started on lack of lunch and lack of breaks during the day for teachers.