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re: What in the actual frick - 4 day school weeks
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:06 am to bayoubengals88
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:06 am to bayoubengals88
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It’s likely that most teachers do more in 182 days than you do in 250.
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I taught for nine years.
I didn’t realize you were a woman
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Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:08 am to FLTech
I can’t speak for those particular school districts but there are a couple in my area that switched due to a lack of funding; as a side note test scores went up.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:09 am to bayoubengals88
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jobs. It’s likely that most teachers do more in 182 days than you do in 250.
I taught for nine years.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:12 am to Supermoto Tiger
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Teachers would never make it in the real world. They are a disease. They are weak.
You dumbass you think every teacher is a lifer? Every single former teacher I’ve met who is now successful in a different field says teaching was the hardest job they’ve had.
If teaching were so easy and didn’t pay like shite all you baws would be meeting at Sonic to fight over job openings.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:14 am to Tigahs24Seven
Most teachers don’t get three months off, my wife is one in Alabama and they get about 8 weeks total. She also makes 50k with a Master’s degree and no discipline at school. The only people who complain about teacher’s pay and working hours are mouth breathers like you who make less. They should make 75k for the crap they put up with. I make more in two weeks than she does in a month with half the education.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:17 am to Ghost Hog
Absolutely, 40k a year outta really attract qualified teachers lol, some of y’all are absolute geniuses. Then you would complain about poorly performing schools
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:27 am to FLTech
School hours are just daycare and prep for a 9-5 job.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:50 am to nugget
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momentoftruth87
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nugget
When the corporate world hires a former teacher they’re usually hiring someone who’s harder working and more efficient than the norm.
The pace of the job from 6:30 AM to 8:30 is enough to make one work circles around nearly any desk jockey.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:53 am to FLTech
This is about teachers and not the kids.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:10 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Sometimes you can knock that out in 45 minutes sure but if it’s say a 5 page essay in a junior or senior level English course that may not be as simple as you put it.
But you are talking about the outliers. You don’t have a 5 page essay to grade every week. Maybe 2 times a semester. And every teacher I know take multiple weeks to grade them.
In any case, on a normal schedule you aren’t needing your planning period and 2 hours after work and 3 hours at home every night to complete your work.
I notice you also mention lessons for the next few days. After year 3 you shouldn’t have to drastically alter your lesson plans as planning should be pretty much set from prior years. Minor tweaks yea, but not a drastic deviation. Most teachers also teach one subject to one grade. So it isn’t making a lesson plan for each individual class, it’s one plan for all the classes.
Look, I respect what teachers do. I hate training adults to do things they should already know how to do, so I can only imagine having to deal with kids. But to act like teachers all put in 60-70 hours a week, every week, isn’t reality.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:13 am to Rip Torner
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She also makes 50k with a Master’s degree and no discipline at school.
Did she know what the pay was when she was going to school to become a teacher?
I agree teachers need to be paid more, but it’s not like the salary and pay issues were hidden from them before they decided to become a teacher.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:16 am to BigBinBR
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But to act like teachers all put in 60-70 hours a week, every week, isn’t reality.
nope, not at all, my mom was a school teacher, loved it, never once heard her complain about it, and when I was young and single the bars were full of school teachers out till the wee hours on any given week night, the ones on here knighting about how difficult the job is remind me of the stay at home mom is the hardest job in the world and the there's no greater pain then child birth crowds
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:16 am to BigBinBR
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Most teachers also teach one subject to one grade. So it isn’t making a lesson plan for each individual class, it’s one plan for all the classes.
This almost never happens in my experience.
You’re also moved between subjects more than you’d think.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:17 am to FLTech
quote:I would pay money to go to a four day school week.
This country is fricking lost. It’s done.
An extra day to hunt, hang out, get chores done. Hell yeah.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:21 am to BigBinBR
quote:my kids spent most of their lives in public, they changed curriculum at least three times in math and English.
also mention lessons for the next few days. After year 3 you shouldn’t have to drastically alter your lesson plans as planning should be pretty much set from prior years. Minor tweaks yea, but not a drastic deviation. Most teachers also teach one subject to one grade. So it isn’t making a lesson plan for each individual class, it’s one plan for all the classes.
In private briefly. They are changing curriculum this year.
Teachers don’t sit on lesson plans for years at all.
They are dealing with kids with no home life ti assist or with parents who think their little precious jewel can do no wrong. They get no support from most administrators as they are only concerned w state requirements and performance scores
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:24 am to BigBinBR
It’s really not so much about the hours or the work you have to do at home.
Working from home can be avoided after a few years. That’s probably true. Especially if you’re a coach or have a family, or both.
But the thing that cannot be easily understood or replicated is the need to be on your game at all times from 6:30 on. You are responsible for a ton of kids, some of whom spend a good chunk of their time actively scheming against you.
Most students are great. It’s that nefarious 2-4 out of 25 that cause most of the stress and quite honestly they can make all teaching and learning difficult for the rest.
It would be enough to make most here quit inside of a month.
Working from home can be avoided after a few years. That’s probably true. Especially if you’re a coach or have a family, or both.
But the thing that cannot be easily understood or replicated is the need to be on your game at all times from 6:30 on. You are responsible for a ton of kids, some of whom spend a good chunk of their time actively scheming against you.
Most students are great. It’s that nefarious 2-4 out of 25 that cause most of the stress and quite honestly they can make all teaching and learning difficult for the rest.
It would be enough to make most here quit inside of a month.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:25 am to FLTech
This thread is impossible to follow. But I will add my thoughts:
1. Is being a teacher hard? Yes. Because our government is bent on destroying the nuclear family and our economy is so poor that you can’t support a family on one parents income.
2. Is teaching long hours and long days?
Absolutely not. Go to your local school at 7:30 am and at 4 pm and see how many cars are in the lot. It is empty except for the coaches/band etc.
1. Is being a teacher hard? Yes. Because our government is bent on destroying the nuclear family and our economy is so poor that you can’t support a family on one parents income.
2. Is teaching long hours and long days?
Absolutely not. Go to your local school at 7:30 am and at 4 pm and see how many cars are in the lot. It is empty except for the coaches/band etc.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:28 am to SECdragonmaster
quote:exactly. The people who bitch about being up late at night grading or doing whatever are doing it to themselves. When 3:10 hits I’m done (with the exception of coaching duties) and still do a decent job of staying on top of planning/grading. I’m probably not as fast as others but my kids get their tests back within a week.
2. Is teaching long hours and long days? Absolutely not. Go to your local school at 7:30 am and at 4 pm and see how many cars are in the lot. It is empty except for the coaches/band etc.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:31 am to tigerfoot
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my kids spent most of their lives in public, they changed curriculum at least three times in math and English.
If they switched them between math and English then that’s what’s wrong with the schools. It’s a completely different teaching style and knowledge base between those two.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 11:34 am to SECdragonmaster
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1. Is being a teacher hard? Yes. Because our government is bent on destroying the nuclear family and our economy is so poor that you can’t support a family on one parents income. 2. Is teaching long hours and long days?
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Absolutely not. Go to your local school at 7:30 am and at 4 pm and see how many cars are in the lot. It is empty except for the coaches/band etc.
You’re on the right track and you’re attempting to be fair, but you don’t know about most public high schools.
There is no easing into your day, and the parking lot is full by 6:45.
Kids pour in before 7:00, before most of you have even pushed “brew”.
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