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Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:02 am to FLTech
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Never mind the fact that test scores are the lowest in this country’s history. HS kids can’t even read middle school level reading.
Yep, if we stick with five, this will change dramatically. Can’t you see how test scores, reading levels, and math proficiency are thriving and steadily increasing with the five day week. These fricking lazy teachers make me sick.
Now, if they really wanted to improve education, this topic wouldn’t even be on the table. It’s not going to improve, though, because student and parent accountability is never going to happen.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:08 am to SuperSaint
First I don’t have kids. 2nd I have never wanted kids. 3rd when normal good paying jobs for a mom or a dad are usually jobs that one would work from Mon-Fri - absolutely schools are a babysitter until they make work 4 days/week to accommodate these lazy, stressed teachers.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 9:11 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:10 am to FLTech
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3rd when normal food paying jobs for a mom and a dad are usually jobs that one would work from Mon-Fri - absolutely schools are a babysitter
Is that why there’s an explosion in homeschooling?
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:10 am to Hot Carl
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Sounds good, doesn’t work. How do you quantify merit
Agree with a lot of your posts but you lose me here.
If you are looking for data, use average value added compared to a norm.
Also the “some kids don’t test well” mantra is overblown. Yeah there are a few kids out there for whom testing does not accurately reflect learning, but out of 150 kids, this is not statistically significant.
You can also use observations and surveys.
Or, just admit reality, which is that the vast majority of teachers, admins, parents , and students know exactly who the good and bad teachers are.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:12 am to FLTech
Teaching is a very stressful job but instead of a 4 day week in school, we need more discipline and less micromanagement by bureaucrats
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:13 am to ItNeverRains
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I agree with all this and also think kids should not have homework until high school. It’s more important for kids to get home and go play with their friends or be involved in sports or clubs than come home and have couple hours of assignments in middle and elementary school.
Homework is necessary because there isn’t enough time in the school day for individual reinforcement.
If you make the teaching day more efficient, you can require less homework.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:18 am to fightin tigers
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but the current schedule is shite for kids learning.
so it’s the schedules fault? not the parents, not teachers, not bloated school administration positions, or shite curriculum. it’s the schedule holding them back.
k
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:26 am to Hot Carl
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2) teachers don’t work 8-3. Their days don’t end when the 7th period bell rings. Most stay at school till 4 or 5 and then work another 2-3 hours at home working on lesson plans or grading papers
If a teacher needs an extra 5 hours a day (2 hours after school and 3 hours at home) for the 7 hours of instruction they provide then they have a problem with time management an efficiency.
I also notice that the you didn’t mention that each teacher has a planning period every day (45/min a day - or the weekly equivalent). If they were efficient then they should be able to use that time to actually plan the next day or grade papers.
However, most teachers use the planning period as a break and screw around or hang out in the teachers lounge gossiping.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:26 am to FLTech
quote:Teachers would never make it in the real world. They are a disease. They are weak.
interviewed Karen looking liberal teachers talking about how this decision was sooooo needed because of the mental stress it takes on teachers. How teachers really need this. How this is going to benefit them (the teachers) because the job is sooooooo stressful
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Not one single teacher said a single word about the students
They suck. They are complainers. They are an embarrassment.
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test scores are the lowest in this country’s history
They are terrible examples. They are lazy. They are also predators.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:27 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Kids not giving a shite about school is directly due to parents not giving a shite about their kids education.
After meeting people from other countries, I can say that America doesn’t prioritize education. Politicians tinker, but push more bureaucracy on teachers while not raising pay or giving resources. Parents don’t support teachers and don’t take action to help their kids learn. These are generalizations, but hold true when compared to other countries. We’re just a country full of assholes raising little assholes who don’t respect education.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:27 am to fightin tigers
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but the current schedule is shite for kids learning.
The schedule isn’t the problem, it’s the agenda and the teachers.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:30 am to FLTech
Teachers should have to take a 20% pay cut then
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:44 am to BigBinBR
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I also notice that the you didn’t mention that each teacher has a planning period every day (45/min a day - or the weekly equivalent). If they were efficient then they should be able to use that time to actually plan the next day or grade papers.
My wife’s school has 90 min classes so she gets a daily 90 min “planning” period.
Two days a week, she has standing meetings. One is a weekly meeting with other department teachers, the other rotates between faculty meetings and grade level meetings. These are supposed to last no more than 45 min, but at your job, do meetings end timely?
One day a week she observes her mentee teacher.
The other two days a week she is required to be available during planning fir meetings with parents, meetings with guidance counselors, etc. generally every week she has at least one.
They’re also copies to be made on the few copy machines that actually work, so waiting in line, etc.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:51 am to Tigahs24Seven
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Work year round like the rest of us, and do your damn jobs.
It’s likely that most teachers do more in 182 days than you do in 250.
I taught for nine years.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:53 am to LSUFanHouston
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My wife’s school has 90 min classes so she gets a daily 90 min “planning” period. Two days a week, she has standing meetings. One is a weekly meeting with other department teachers, the other rotates between faculty meetings and grade level meetings. These are supposed to last no more than 45 min, but at your job, do meetings end timely? One day a week she observes her mentee teacher. The other two days a week she is required to be available during planning fir meetings with parents, meetings with guidance counselors, etc. generally every week she has at least one. They’re also copies to be made on the few copy machines that actually work, so waiting in line, etc.
You’re a good listener and I commend you, but that’s maybe half of the “extra” stuff.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 9:57 am to LSUFanHouston
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Two days a week, she has standing meetings
I’m assuming that you are in Texas by your screen name. Texas statute says that meetings have to be agreed to by the teacher as Texas Education Code section 21.404 guarantees each classroom teacher a planning period. Specifically, each classroom teacher is entitled to at least 450 minutes within each two-week period for instructional preparation including parent-teacher conferences, evaluating students’ work, and planning.
Texas Association of School Boards (TASB) has a good FAQ, but I’ll link the meeting part below. All 1,025 Texas school boards are members of TASB.
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5. Can the district require a teacher to attend meetings during planning periods? Not without the teacher's agreement. The statute provides that planning periods are for instructional preparation, including parent-teacher conferences. TASB
Edit: Just FYI I’m all for 4 day workdays for everyone that can work it out - including teachers.
This post was edited on 7/15/23 at 10:00 am
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:00 am to FLTech
Wow, big surprise. Liberals and Progressive are fricking lazy and mentally weak. Update at 10:00.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:00 am to BigBinBR
quote:if I have 6 classes of 25 students that’s 150 papers to grade. Sometimes you can knock that out in 45 minutes sure but if it’s say a 5 page essay in a junior or senior level English course that may not be as simple as you put it. Especially since you have to grade them then put them into the computer which is a time consuming son of a bitch. Plus making lessons for the next few days if you don’t want to stay after school. Bottom line is it can take hours in some cases to thoroughly grade papers.
I also notice that the you didn’t mention that each teacher has a planning period every day (45/min a day - or the weekly equivalent). If they were efficient then they should be able to use that time to actually plan the next day or grade papers.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:05 am to Supermoto Tiger
you could just come out and tell us you don’t know shite about what a teacher’s job is.
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