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Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:27 pm to UFFan
quote:Proverbs 9:10 (KJV)
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:29 pm to HeadCall
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There’s a best selling book about it if you want to check it out
I had someone bring this up in a conversation about religion. Its not like a bunch of individuals go out and buy it every year.. Its because schools, churches, people whose kids are going to Christian/catholic schools. They all need bibles.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:29 pm to UFFan
At its simplest explanation: Because there is evidence of God.
Not proof, but evidence.
Not proof, but evidence.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:36 pm to UFFan
Blythe: “Well, I believe in a higher power, 100%. I don’t think it’s a Caucasian male in a robe with long brown hair, and I don’t think it’s a male or a female. It’s something that I, with my limited cognitive abilities, cannot comprehend or perceive. And I’m not foolish enough to think that I have any sort of answers about God — and I use that term out of convenience — because, in the entire time of man’s existence, no one has come up with the correct answer. If they had, we would know by now. And I’m not denigrating any religion, but religions are just man’s attempt to grasp the impossible, you know?”
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:36 pm to UFFan
My mom was religious her whole life. Got dementia in 2009. She paid those blood suckers $150 every Sunday. When she couldn’t drive anymore they offered to come take her to church. One Sunday she had forgotten her check and left it on the dining room table. They never came again. Her “church” of decades abandoned her. I took care of her the next 9 years. So. No. I don’t believe in God. It’s been a con for 2,000 years. Let me sell you something for a couple hundred thousand dollars but you don’t get it until after you die.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:39 pm to AwgustaDawg
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When you finally give up and accept that you are not going to be a captain of industry, you ain't going to pen the great American novel and you ain't going to play Carnegie Hall
What are you talking about?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:54 pm to UFFan
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But other than the fear of going to hell, why should you believe that God exists?
Because no matter what you believe on how mankind ended up on Earth, it didnt begin with spontaneous generation of all matter and energy in any part of the universe. There has to be an origin story
For spontaneous generation to have occurred, scientifically, then there would be nothing to stop it from reoccurring. Destroying whatever was already in existence at the first generation. And we have no evidence of prior spontaneous generations
Science hedges its bet by defining limitations as being "within a closed system". Our universe is a closed system. There is no proof of anything outside of it. Therefore, a "creator" has to have acted on our system, to have produced all the matter and energy known to us today. It cant have simply popped into being from nowhere
"God" is a creative force. Choosing to accept whether that force exists, or to further "worship" that ability to create, is known as religion
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religion - a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation by a supernatural agency
The key word in that definition is 'supernatural'. It means outside our ability. So to ignore that an outside force acted on our closed system, is a fools errand. There is no known scientific law that answers the origins of mass or energy. Therefore, a force capable of it has to be supernatural, or God. As defined by religion
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:01 pm to AwesomeSauce
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I think you are conflating micro and macro evolution. One stating humans came from a single cell as did every other form of a life originating from nothing. The other that bears in a cold environment would by survival and need develop denser fur and higher fat content over generations and only the strong surviving and therefore those traits being the ones to survive.
The geological columns prove evolution. Case closed!
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:04 pm to HeadCall
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There’s a best selling book about it if you want to check it out
Seems like a strange claim to be proud of.
It means someone made money selling bibles. Doesn’t seem very Christian. Greed and exploitation.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:06 pm to UFFan
I like Voddie Baucham’s take:
“I choose to believe the Bible because it is a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. They report supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific prophecies and they claim that their writings are divine rather than human in origin.”
“I choose to believe the Bible because it is a reliable collection of historical documents written by eyewitnesses during the lifetime of other eyewitnesses. They report supernatural events that took place in fulfillment of specific prophecies and they claim that their writings are divine rather than human in origin.”
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:09 pm to UFFan
And Isaac was at least as smart as you
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:12 pm to Bonkers119
These two ideas are contradictory though. The Bible will have you believe the Earth is only 6,000 years old. Evolution takes millions of years, therefore both cannot exist.
There are good studies on this that show the Bible doesn’t say how old the Earth is. The first two chapters of Genesis have not been translated well from their origins.
There are good studies on this that show the Bible doesn’t say how old the Earth is. The first two chapters of Genesis have not been translated well from their origins.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:15 pm to BigNastyTiger417
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Oh. Maybe the Natural History Museum is good enough for you.
LINK
You trying to use that link to support young earth creationism? Pls explain
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:17 pm to ole man
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going to hell not a good enough reason
The boogey man real? 1 million years is an eyeblink in hell. So what we do in a measly 70 to 90 years determines our fate for eternity. That's supposed to come from a benevolent being? Benevolent, omnipotent and omniscient contradicts each other. You can have 1 but not 2 and definitely not 3.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:32 pm to ManWithNoNsme
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My mom was religious her whole life. Got dementia in 2009. She paid those blood suckers $150 every Sunday. When she couldn’t drive anymore they offered to come take her to church. One Sunday she had forgotten her check and left it on the dining room table. They never came again. Her “church” of decades abandoned her. I took care of her the next 9 years. So. No. I don’t believe in God. It’s been a con for 2,000 years. Let me sell you something for a couple hundred thousand dollars but you don’t get it until after you die.
There are many false prophets that have tried to ruin God's message for their own gain.
Do not confuse some of humankind's selfish and greedy evil members. God's love is above that. Do no confuse this with the real message.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 9:29 pm to UFFan
Because God's Not Dead, and Heaven is Real...
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