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re: What good reason is there to believe in God?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:13 pm to CatsGoneWild
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:13 pm to CatsGoneWild
There is proof of a man that preached Christianity. No proof of someone rising from the dead
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:14 pm to UFFan
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Most people just seem to believe in God because of Pascal's wager.
Pascal's wager is ridiculous because there is more than one being that people claim is a God.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:14 pm to cgrand
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What would be remarkable (and it certainly appeared that way in biblical times) is if we were alone. The chances of that are infinitely small. And that would beg the question of what in the hell is the point of the rest of the universe if that were so?
Out of something like 5,500 exoplanets currently known, about 20-30 are considered to be in the "habitable zone" around their stars. Its unlikely that all of those hold life.
For example, Mars is either just outside of the zone or in the fringe of the zone in our own solar system. If half of those 20-30 planets actually contain life, then we are talking about something around .2 to .25%. If you're in the top .25% of anything I'd say that qualifies as remarkable.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:14 pm to UFFan
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But other than the fear of going to hell, why should you believe that God exists?
Why would you not believe in a creator? It takes just as much faith to believe there is not a God, does it not?
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 12:38 am
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:14 pm to UFFan
If you really think about it, you’ll have to agree that for anything to exist it must be one of three things:
1) Eternal
2) Self-Created, or
3) Created by Something that is Eternal
Check out R.C. Sproul.
1) Eternal
2) Self-Created, or
3) Created by Something that is Eternal
Check out R.C. Sproul.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:16 pm to UFFan
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why should you believe that God exists?
In my experience, if you take enough psychedelics you won't be able to ignore that there is a higher power.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:17 pm to Toss_Dive
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Can you prove there isn’t a God
Can you prove there’s no Thor? No Zeus? No Flying Spaghetti Monster?
You can’t prove something doesn’t exist. Burden of proof is on the one making the claim
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:18 pm to VolSquatch
quote:you are certainly aware of how many stars there are out there, generally, right? the milky way contains well over 100 billion stars. and we think that there are over 100 billion galaxies in the universe, perhaps far more
Out of something like 5,500 exoplanets currently known
now tell me, how likely is it that planet earth harbors the only life among all those planets and moons orbiting all those stars?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:18 pm to StrongOffer
Correct..
But Faith is mentioned over and over in the Bible….
There is no evidence of Jesus healing the blind- correct? No video, pictures, witnesses that are alive….only thing we have is our belief, or not.
But Faith is mentioned over and over in the Bible….
There is no evidence of Jesus healing the blind- correct? No video, pictures, witnesses that are alive….only thing we have is our belief, or not.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:19 pm to StrongOffer
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If it exists everywhere in the universe, why don't we see life all over the place?
Because the universe is massive, It takes 200,000 years just to travel to other side of the Milky Way. We will never have the ability to verify life in other parts of the universe just due to scale of it.
If there are other civilizations that are interstellar, chances are they will never make it our solar system.
You should look up the fermi paradox.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:19 pm to Furious
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Why would you not believe in a creator? It takes just as much faith to believe their is not a God, does it not?
I wouldn't say atheism is the same as faith at all. Atheism's problem is that those who prescribe to it see themselves as having the logical position when both the creationist and atheistic positions are 'illogical' compared to agnosticism, but the creationist position relies on faith with concedes that there are illogical and even supernatural elements to it. Meanwhile atheism denies its logical faults with no admission of such that you get with the concept of faith.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:19 pm to JetsetNuggs
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Moral compass
Take a look at the narcissism from people that don't believe anything is above them
There is no co-relation between morality and belief or faith. Morality and ethics exist outside of religion or beliefs. Non-believers are no more narcissistic or immoral than people who claim to believe or people who genuinely have faith in the existence of god. People are people. If you lined up all the humans there ever were and all there ever will be and their height represented their morality, belief in god or faith in god the surface would be as plat as an undisturbed body of water with nary a variation distinguishable.
If you study the history of believers and non-believers in terms of morality to the former come off in a horrible light compared to the latter....and it ain't close.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:21 pm to StrongOffer
quote:yes we do
We don't know what creates life
quote:you mean in our own little solar syatem? as opposed to all of the observable universe?
If it exists everywhere in the universe, why don't we see life all over the place?
by the way it is highly likely that there IS life within our solar system on the moons of jupiter and saturn. we just need to land there to prove it
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:21 pm to Carson123987
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Can you prove there’s no Thor? No Zeus? No Flying Spaghetti Monster? You can’t prove something doesn’t exist. Burden of proof is on the one making the claim
Again we are both making truth claims. Prove the universe came about from natural causes.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:22 pm to cgrand
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now tell me, how likely is it that planet earth harbors the only life among all those planets and moons orbiting all those stars?
I just did the math based on what we know and said I would expect 10-15 out of those 5,500 that we know of.
Its not a small sample size by any statistical measure, but when talking about billions of stars it could be an outlier (in either direction, btw).
I'm giving you the actual evidence we do have and you're resulting to blind speculation while criticizing religion... do you see the irony?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:25 pm to CatsGoneWild
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When you’re saved you will have the Holy Spirit in you. It’s something that you have to experience to understand
This is the absolute truth. The sense of peace and euphoria and “rightness” you feel when you earnestly accept Christ and call out to him is indescribable.
It’s a lot like drugs. You can explain the feelings from them all you want but experiencing them is a whole different thing.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:26 pm to cgrand
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you mean in our own little solar syatem? as opposed to all of the observable universe? by the way it is highly likely that there IS life within our solar system on the moons of jupiter and saturn. we just need to land there to prove it
Many scientists, including Sir Fred Hoyle, have argued that the sheer complexity of even the simplest life forms makes their spontaneous generation from non-living matter incredibly unlikely.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:29 pm to UFFan
In my thinking, it takes more faith to believe there is no God
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:30 pm to Bonkers119
There are 500 planets in the Milky Way that meet the "criteria for life". Yet none of them have signs if life. I'm not worried about unfalsifiable theories. You can't say evidence points to tons of planets with life when it's not true. It "may be true" that planets on the other side of the universe have intelligent life but the criteria that is needed for life that most point to exists in this Milky Way. My stance is that we don't yet know what creates life. The evidence as of today suggests we are the only planet with intelligent life.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 2:31 pm to cgrand
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What good reason is there to believe in God?
That's the wrong question to ask, honestly. "Good" and "Reason," imply a lot. The problem is that when we ask this question we typically ask for some sort of "comforting" feeling, or a "positive" result that proves God exists.
But that's not the point, and that's quite a human perspective because for us - the "comforting" and the "positive," often have to do with tangible reality here. Which... is precisely not the point or proposition God created us for. You want God to solve a problem here, as a path to believe, or you want him to solve every problem. Or you want the belief in God to change something tangible, etc. It doesn't work like that.
Getting beyond here, beyond "us," which is to say ourselves - is the move that one has to make to believe, and that's a tough one.
I didn't necessarily need "a reason," and struggled for a bit. But I've seen God actively working in my life in my stark ways. And where I am today - would not have happened without Him. Recognizing that, and then recognizing it throughout my life whether or not I saw it at the time, was the way belief, with doubt, became unquestioned belief.
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