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re: What exactly is an "assault" rifle?

Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:01 pm to
So much LULZ to be had. You are clueless.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:02 pm to
Bayonet lug increases lethality by 35% fwiw
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:05 pm to
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you’ll be paying up to $5 per round of ammo


You know better than this.


Guess you missed the “up to” portion of that statement. Because while you can get rifle ammo relatively cheap, if you’re looking for rounds for say an M2, that’s where the $5 per round come into play.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:09 pm to
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So much LULZ to be had. You are clueless.


Look here, shite stain, I’ve forgot more about firearms that your stupid arse will ever know. Everything I’ve said in this thread has been based on facts gained from years of study and hands in experience with firearms ranging from .22 up to 155mm.

All I’ve done in this thread is push back the bullshite misconceptions about what is and isn’t an assault rifle. I’ve also answered the question of what it takes to legally own a fully automatic weapon in the US today. If you’re too stupid to listen and learn from someone who, unlike you, actually knows their arse from a hole in the ground then I can’t help you.
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:32 pm to
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Guess you missed the “up to” portion of that statement. Because while you can get rifle ammo relatively cheap, if you’re looking for rounds for say an M2, that’s where the $5 per round come into play.


The point is that just because you buy a full auto doesn't mean that the price of the ammo increases. If I have a Barrett .50 cal the rounds will cost about $5 per round.

The ammo for my AR-15 cost the same as someone that has a registered M4.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:37 pm to
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The point is that just because you buy a full auto doesn't mean that the price of the ammo increases. If I have a Barrett .50 cal the rounds will cost about $5 per round.

The ammo for my AR-15 cost the same as someone that has a registered M4.


You’re totally missing the point of that post. Someone asked what it takes to own an automatic weapon. I answered their question and even provided an article detailing what goes into it from an expert in the field. He was the one who said it can cost **up to** $5 per round. Of course that all depends on what round you’re firing. Of course if you’re firing a rifle chambered for 5.56 you’re going to spend far less than something firing say a .50 cal round. Maybe I should have specified that part instead of assuming you’d be able to figure it out for yourself.
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:39 pm to
and what I'm saying is that article is crap.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:44 pm to
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and what I'm saying is that article is crap.


What are you saying that he said was wrong?
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Then you’re a dumbass who should learn something about the subject before making yourself look stupid.


Ah, usually when someone resorts to name calling it means they are correct.

ETA: nice edit

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What are you saying that he said was wrong?


Well the sentence about ammo costing $5 per round is misleading. I can write the same sentence in regards to semi-auto firearms. See..

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A single semi-auto gun often runs into the thousands of dollars and that’s before purchasing ammunition for the gun. That can run as high as $5 per round.


Then you added this:

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So to get one you have to go through a background check, FBI investigation into every aspect of your life, and submit photo ID and fingerprints. Plus you’ll probably need a lawyer who specializes in firearms permits to guide you through the process.


which as I stated earlier is misleading.

The background check is the same as for suppressors, SBR's, SBS's, etc...

Also, from what I understand the background check isn't that much more involved than a NICS background check. If you get approved through the NICS system you will get approved for a Class III background check.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 12:57 pm
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:49 pm to
Now you can get laser sights on the Bug-A-Salt



Game changer...
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:53 pm to
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Ah, usually when someone resorts to name calling it means they are correct.


I’m sorry your post made me think you’re a dumbass. Now prove me wrong, that you’re not a dumbass but listing what the man said was wrong.
Posted by bbvdd
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:27 pm to
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You’re totally missing the point of that post. Someone asked what it takes to own an automatic weapon. I answered their question and even provided an article detailing what goes into it from an expert in the field.


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Yes, but unless you have a federal license (which is virtually impossible to get) you can’t buy or possess them.


The second quote is your response earlier in the thread (3rd page)

You do not need a federal license to own one.

You need a transferable one and a $200 stamp, and to pass the background check that goes with the $200 stamp.

A transferable weapon typically goes for $15k up to $100k
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:33 pm to
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Also, from what I understand the background check isn't that much more involved than a NICS background check.


some extra paperwork, fingerprint, and you need a photo
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:37 pm to
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You do not need a federal license to own one.

You need a transferable one and a $200 stamp, and to pass the background check that goes with the $200 stamp.


Love how you just totally skip over the hoops one has to jump through to get the license and act like all you have to do is pay $200.

Nothing about the background check
Nothing about the FBI investigation
Nothing about fingerprinting & photo ID
Nothing about the process taking up to a year
Nothing about how even after you get the permit you have to get federal approval for all future purchases which is also a slow process.

Plus the $200 isn’t for the permit, dumbass. It’s a tax on each purchase. You pay that $200 and get approval for each purchase. Plus you have to register that firearm as well.

You’re either a liar or an idiot if you’re claiming all it takes to legally own an automatic weapon is drop $200 off at your local FBI office and then you’re off and running.
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:44 pm to
Do you own any Class III items?
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:45 pm to
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You’re either a liar or an idiot


pretty sure bbvdd has gone through the tax stamp process several times...
Posted by rowbear1922
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:48 pm to
I’m more thinking of the way the media denotes an assault rifle is not correct. The ARs and AKs that you can buy in gun stores are not assault rifles. They are simply a semi-auto rifle
Posted by bbvdd
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Posted on 6/17/19 at 4:28 pm to
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Nothing about the background check
Nothing about the FBI investigation
Nothing about fingerprinting & photo ID
Nothing about the process taking up to a year
Nothing about how even after you get the permit you have to get federal approval for all future purchases which is also a slow process.


There is a background check
There is fingerprint and photo ID (however on my 1st 3 I did not need either of these since it went through a trust that I set up.
Those took 6mth on two and 3mths on another (some are only about 2wks right now however)

There is no FBI investigation
Any additional items must also go through the process

It is what it is but there is not a license that you must have prior to any purchase.

I have 5 items.
4 silencers
1 SBR

Still waiting on two of them.
This post was edited on 6/17/19 at 4:31 pm
Posted by tigahbruh
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Posted on 6/18/19 at 12:49 pm to
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An assault rifle is a real thing and has been illegal for an average citizen to own since its existence, beginning early 1940s (guns with automatic capability had been banned since 1934)

Turn off the CNN bruh. You can still legally buy and own them


Huh? CNN is the one telling you that people can own them. They can't.
It is absolutely illegal for someone without a specific federal licence to own an assault rifle.
Fact.
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