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re: What do modern women bring to a relationships with men?

Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Dadren
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 11:59 am to
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In my circle of friends and the parents of my kids friends, I do not know more than 2 that sound as miserable as the posters make everyone woman sound like.

Am I just that insulated?

You probably are, and that’s probably a good thing. People who hang around other happily married people tend to stay happily married.

Similar with people who view marriage in a negative light. They tend to hang around/listen to people with miserable marriages, divorced folks and singles.
Posted by icecreamsnowball
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:05 pm to
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the same way that our telling girls that they are too pretty to understand math is a horrible idea.


That has not been a thing in my or my parents’ lifetimes
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:06 pm to
Ill offer up a serious answer.

Mine is an excellent mother and a great traditional matriarchal figure in our household. She takes great care of the kids, me, the home (the inside of it at least), and herself.

I know what OP is getting at. I did the tinder thing once upon a time. The country is littered with worthless women and worthless men. Avoid them.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:07 pm to
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In my circle of friends and the parents of my kids friends, I do not know more than 2 that sound as miserable as the posters make everyone woman sound like


I’m in my 30’s (divorced). I know 3 married couples in my close circle of friends. They’re all reasonably happy marriages with kids, but they’re all stressed to the max over finances. Their wives sometimes complain to me about how little time they actually get to spend with their husbands because they have to work so much. The only one of them that works less than 70 hrs/week just to barely get by only works less now because he’s also in school at night. All of the wives work just as hard.

Finances were also a huge drag on my marriage. While they definitely weren’t the only problem, that one problem made everything else much worse. I once again feel like the economic conditions young men and women are dealing with cannot be overlooked as contributing to the poor state of the dating market. It is my opinion that the social behaviors that underlie the “loneliness epidemic” are largely the product of poor economic conditions for young adults. It just feels like everyone is working harder and longer hours than ever before, yet has never been poorer, all while being told how lazy they are for not being able to get ahead.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Mr Roboto
Member since Jan 2023
7198 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:09 pm to
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What do modern women bring to a relationships with men?

The typical modern western women? Not much

Moved to Seattle and found me a Korean girl. You should try something similar
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:45 pm to
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Please please tell me you also do a lot of things for her as well.


Yes, the housework is split up pretty much 50/50. Most of mine are outdoor chores, though.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:08 pm to
Love
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 1:59 pm to
But why is she having to make and remind you of all of your appointments? She's not your mom. And then y'all have to ask what women bring to the relationship, seriously?
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:13 pm to
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But why is she having to make and remind you of all of your appointments? She's not your mom. And then y'all have to ask what women bring to the relationship, seriously?


She doesn't have to. I've never asked her to. She's just good at that sort of thing and enjoys keeping my planner updated . I'm not much of a planner, she is. When we started dating I was working two jobs and in school full time so sh*t got hectic and she helped out with putting all my shifts, tests, and classes in my calendar so I wouldn't have to worry about it. She just kept on doing it.

I keep her vehicle maintenance taken care of so she doesn't have to, that doesn't mean I'm acting like her dad.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
58283 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:15 pm to
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I wasn't responding to your comments unless you're also wadewilson,
so what? I’m responding to your comment, so tough shite
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
6287 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:17 pm to
bobs and vangene
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17476 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:20 pm to
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, or couldn't bag them just missed their opportunity.


Gotta have that long game to bag these ladies.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17476 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:20 pm to
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I know multiple extremely high net worth individuals who kept themselves in shape, didn’t run around and were “reasonable” spouses (men and women) who were cheated on or dropped for reasons like “I need to find myself” or “I just don’t feel the same way anymore” or even “sorry you caught me with my personal trainer, but it’s actually your fault because _____”.


Obviously not high worth enough to earn and keep respect.

Thats a fact.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17476 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:22 pm to
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I’m in my 30’s (divorced). I know 3 married couples in my close circle of friends. They’re all reasonably happy marriages with kids, but they’re all stressed to the max over finances. Their wives sometimes complain to me about how little time they actually get to spend with their husbands because they have to work so much. The only one of them that works less than 70 hrs/week just to barely get by only works less now because he’s also in school at night. All of the wives work just as hard.

Finances were also a huge drag on my marriage. While they definitely weren’t the only problem, that one problem made everything else much worse. I once again feel like the economic conditions young men and women are dealing with cannot be overlooked as contributing to the poor state of the dating market. It is my opinion that the social behaviors that underlie the “loneliness epidemic” are largely the product of poor economic conditions for young adults. It just feels like everyone is working harder and longer hours than ever before, yet has never been poorer, all while being told how lazy they are for not being able to get ahead.


Sounds like they are overspending or living too high on the hog. I really dont get it. If you havent earned to live like this, why do you try to do it? This is the problem with 89% of famillies these days. They are trying to be something they ARE NOT.

Most blue collar families, especially in Louisiana, live above their means.

Its that simple.

Dont blame the guy dont blame the girl, blame them both then blame their parents.

Everyone is educated to know finances are tough for married couples so dont sit here now and say you didnt know.

You just werent taught by your parents because they didnt know or were lazy. Thats really the end of the story.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 2:24 pm
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
17476 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:25 pm to
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quote:
I wasn't responding to your comments unless you're also wadewilson,
so what? I’m responding to your comment, so tough shite


Get him girl.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Member since Jun 2020
58283 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:25 pm to
lol
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85659 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:25 pm to
Unless she makes all the money, nothing really.


Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3056 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:41 pm to
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But why is she having to make and remind you of all of your appointments? She's not your mom. And then y'all have to ask what women bring to the relationship, seriously?

I didn’t read “mom” in any of that, I read a couple that found a division of household labor that works for them.

When my wife was a SAHM, she made all of my appointments for me. She still makes some of them for me even though she works, and she shops for most of the things I need.

But you know what she has never done and will never have to do while I’m around?

-Change a tire
-Car maintenance
-Wash her car
-Wash anything on the exterior of the house
-Maintain the yard
-Unclog a toilet (even if she clogged it )
-Move anything heavy (unless she just wants to for some reason).
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/30/25 at 2:43 pm to
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The way we have raised boys for about 130 years is an insult to the nature of men. Boys need education obviously but at 10 years old a boy does not have the ability to sit still and behave in a manner that a woman approves of....and so female teachers berate boys about being boys and the boy soon develops a distaste for education AND women.
Dude, that ain't even close to my experience.

I knew that Natalie Wood had something I wanted when I saw her when I was five years old. No female teacher could or did change that in me.*

10 year-old me could behave in school well enough to avoid getting beat. 10 year-old boys need to be able to sit and behave, they aren't better off being fulltime professional farmers or chimney sweeps.

*I soon moved on from Natalie Wood to the local girls who were a year or two older than me. It was a variation on the same theme though.
Posted by HoustonChick86
Catalina Wine Mixer
Member since Dec 2009
59129 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 3:02 pm to
I guess y'all's idea of division of labor is just different. I've never been asked to make an appointment for another adult in a relationship, nor have I asked them to change the oil in my car or wash it. Whatever works though, that's all that matters.

Actually I did see a video the other day now that I think of it where some lady was complaining bc she was having to put gas in her car instead of her husband. Have I been doing this incorrectly my whole life??? My mom did it for me until I was 18 and then I just took if from there, was I supposed to give that job back over to a guy at some point???
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 3:04 pm
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