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re: What came before the big bang?

Posted on 11/18/17 at 6:55 pm to
Posted by VanCleef
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 6:55 pm to
Theoretically, it is an irrelevant question; There was no such thing as time before the big bang. It's that whole time-space continuum thing.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:03 pm to
What about the lotus flower growing out of Vishnu’s navel?
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:04 pm to
Eternity and the universe and shite like what was before and after are alll subject that make me want to puke. It’s almost an instant physical reaction to thinking about this shite. It’s easily my biggest fear, the idea of trying to comprehend before or after the universe. The beginning. The end. Etc.
Posted by VinegarStrokes
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:09 pm to
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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:1


This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 7:11 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:18 pm to
I can relate man I've been thinking about this lately and it's really bothering to not know what is after life.

The more I learn and look at things the idea of religion is becoming fake. I'm not saying ppl can't believe or I knock anyone going, but simple facts of simple biology kind of remove the idea of God.

I do believe there is something after life whether it's my ability to look down on my loved ones or whatever the "master plan" has for me after.

I have been one to want to be burried my whole life from how I've seen others make that choice of what to do with your body, but I told my wife the other day I want to be cremated. I mean why get burried when I know one day after I'm long gone someone will dig me up for their greed or purpose. Plus what a waste of money.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:20 pm to
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I have been one to want to be burried my whole life from how I've seen others make that choice of what to do with your body, but I told my wife the other day I want to be cremated. I mean why get burried when I know one day after I'm long gone someone will dig me up for their greed or purpose. Plus what a waste of money.


I just hope you live long enough to learn how to spell 'buried'.

Good luck, buddy.

Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:22 pm to
I'm a 30 yr old college student in Comp II. I'm trying man. I'm usually pretty good, but still pissed from the game. No fricks given at the moment just trying to decompress.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:39 pm to
Heaven/an afterlife is honestly the scariest thought. Eternity is horrifying. I hope if that does exist it’s Buddhist and reincarnation is the avenue, otherwise I just want it to be black nothingness, non existence. Just like before I was born
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:50 pm to
Yeah I don't want eternity with the same world. Do you think we will ever know? I honestly feel deep down like this is an experiment of some sort. We were put here for a reason but we all know it's going to end with death or running out of basic stuff like water. Sure we can figure out a way to make water or what not but at the end of the day nothing is infinite in this life we live.
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 7:53 pm to
Scientists are the best at making shite up.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:05 pm to
Simple carbon dating proves the earth is older than what the Bible says. Not saying we have exact facts, but honestly I think religion, such as Christianity, was just documentation of an early civilization. More or less laws and simple respect for the people.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:11 pm to
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What came before the big bang?


If I go with the odds, then I did...and it wasn't really close.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:13 pm to
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think religion, such as Christianity, was just documentation of an early civilization. More or less laws and simple respect for the people.


Nah, religion was created simply as a means for smarter/richer people to control dumber/poorer people
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71466 posts
Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:19 pm to
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Nah, religion was created simply as a means for smarter/richer people to control dumber/poorer people


Like a government or ruler? That's pretty much what I meant. Like you can say President/God or King/God. Commandments basically in a small population to respect one another and also establish boundaries/laws. Do not steal - No shite, I'm sure in an early civilization items were scarce, valuable and limited in the eyes of the ruler.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:20 pm to
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What came before the big bang?


The big 69
Posted by Vegas Eddie
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:20 pm to
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quote: Most physicists, he begins, agree on the big-bang theory, which says that 14 billion years ago the entire observable universe was “roughly a million billion billion times smaller than a single atom” and has been expanding ever since, to its current size of something like 100 billion galaxies. Thereafter, theories diverge: There’s the “Two-Headed Time” school, which sees the BB as sort of a pothole in the long road of time, with the future pointing away from that moment in two opposing directions. In this theory, time moved in a way we would consider backward for billions of years — with the universe contracting all the while — until it shrank to subatomic size. Then the big bang occurred and time began to progress, and the universe expanded, in the way we see now. The other theory posits that the universe materialized literally out of nothing. As Stephen Hawking puts it, in this theory the universe “would be neither created nor destroyed. It would just BE.” Physicists in this school point to a documented phenomenon known as quantum tunneling, in which very small particles appear in different places at the same time. This happens only to particles smaller than an atom. But since at the time of the big bang the entire universe was subatomic, the entire universe could have suddenly appeared where it had not been before. Got that? There’s more. Lightman brings the theological implications of physics into his story. Noting that not all physicists are atheists, he recounts what Saint Augustine said when asked what God was doing before creating the universe. “Augustine replied,” he says, “that since God created time when He created the universe, there was no ‘before’.?” Headache-inducing as the creation theories can be, Lightman and the quantum cosmologists believe it to be an appropriate and useful subject for study. On the other hand, as he wryly notes, “It all happened, whether we think about it or not.”



I need a job that allows me to make shite up with no proof to support it or any remote way to to test my conclusions
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:29 pm to
The Lord
Posted by bayoutiger225
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:31 pm to
Enlighten us please
Posted by 75503Tiger
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:39 pm to
I was thinking too much beer and a lot of rejection from the thinner chicks
Posted by CFDoc
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/18/17 at 8:42 pm to
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I need a job that allows me to make shite up with no proof to support it or any remote way to to test my conclusions


It may sound like a good gig, but it’s exactly why theoretical physicists are having a rough go right now. They’ve pretty much hit a point where it’s take your favorite field theory relationship, postulate some idea, convert it to math, get some new relationship, publish it, and then argue with all the other theoretical physicists.

Considering CERN is nowhere near where it needs to be to test what’s actually occurring at the scales of interest, it’s going to be this way for the foreseeable future.

I’m seeing a lot more physicists in the classical and applied sciences these days. At some point, people want to solve real, tangible problems.
This post was edited on 11/18/17 at 8:43 pm
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