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re: What are examples of companies that almost chose to build in Louisiana but didn't?

Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:17 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:17 pm to
Way back there was a plan for a land/air/water/rail terminal in St James parish. Would have been an huge hub.

Seems like Bombardier was part of the financing behind that.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:18 pm to
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LA misses moret


This.

The Jindal era was better for the state even after he started trying to take Obama’s job. He was better than JBE even on his worst day.
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:25 pm to
Disney had a shell company, Reedy Creek, buying land in Osceola and Orange counties. They were buying this land while they were negotiating with LA. Anything LA offered was met with new, and better offers by the state of FL. I believe they used VA, as well as LA to get the huge tax incentives in FL.

Your article that you linked is mis-worded. Orlando did not offer anything. Disney is not, and never was, in Orlando. It is partially in Orange County, but not in Orlando. Anything offered would have been by the state and county.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:32 pm to
The Disney thing is more urban legend. They explored the area. But the east coast was always the goal.
New orleans was to be the third park.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57442 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:53 pm to
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Elio Motors - Shreveport
web says they have a locationin Shreveport....but it also says they have yet to ever produce a vehicle.
Posted by RebelAggieDad
house
Member since Jun 2009
397 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 2:56 pm to
Aldi's.
Had read that they were building one off of Oneal Lane near I-12. Then the Chyna flu hit.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2858 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:06 pm to
The Disney thing is a myth, pulled from various kernels of truth... but Walt never considered Louisiana as a location for Disney World. It was always to be in Orlando.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101404 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:16 pm to
They had a Trump Tower sign up on a lot in New Orleans for some time after Katrina.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2858 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:19 pm to
That News With a Twist article is a great example of of why people correctly call the news "fake."
There isn't a single cited source. Not even a secondary attribution, much less a primary.

If you go down a rabbit hole and track sources for the "Disney wanted to build in Louisiana" myth, you find a bunch of hearsay, 4th and 5th hand accounts, and then touch on some of the reality.

Apparently, like many other states, Disney was showing interest in real estate in La. in order to draw attention away from his determination to build in Florida. He didnt want to completely show his hand and have property owners in Central Fla jack up prices.
Per the usual, politicians made it clear they needed their pockets lined, so even if it were true, they wouldve shitcanned it with their greed.

The more interesting thing I happened upon was that there was a planned park in St Louis that wouldve been themed upon the Mississippi River and the West (St Louis as the gateway to the West and major city on river). A large section of that park was to be New Orleans themed. I believe that this is another kernel of why people so stoutly believe in the "Disney wanted Disney World in Louisiana" myth.
Posted by GoIrish02
Member since Mar 2012
1390 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:20 pm to
Nissan factory (early 2000s?) - Went to Mississippi

Mercedes factory (mid 90s?) - Went to Alabama
This post was edited on 1/21/22 at 4:21 pm
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2858 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:24 pm to
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Nissan factory (early 2000s?) - Went to Mississippi

Mercedes factory (mid 90s?) - Went to Alabama


And there's a Kia factory in Ga that up within the last 25 years.

fricked up when you're getting beat by Mississippi and Alabama.
Posted by Wiseguy
Member since Mar 2020
3394 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:30 pm to
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Home boy has actually expanded his delusion LINK


Anybody know this guy? What’s his story? Is he just grifting trying to get “investors”?
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32793 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:37 pm to
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That News With a Twist article is a great example of of why people correctly call the news "fake." There isn't a single cited source. Not even a secondary attribution, much less a primary. If you go down a rabbit hole and track sources for the "Disney wanted to build in Louisiana" myth, you find a bunch of hearsay, 4th and 5th hand accounts, and then touch on some of the reality. Apparently, like many other states, Disney was showing interest in real estate in La. in order to draw attention away from his determination to build in Florida. He didnt want to completely show his hand and have property owners in Central Fla jack up prices. Per the usual, politicians made it clear they needed their pockets lined, so even if it were true, they wouldve shitcanned it with their greed. The more interesting thing I happened upon was that there was a planned park in St Louis that wouldve been themed upon the Mississippi River and the West (St Louis as the gateway to the West and major city on river). A large section of that park was to be New Orleans themed. I believe that this is another kernel of why people so stoutly believe in the "Disney wanted Disney World in Louisiana" myth.


My thoughts exactly. Nothing about that article came off as credible. In fact, it read a lot like something I’d read on the OT. Take, for example, this excerpt:

quote:

The Disney Corporation was already lining up parcels of property on New Orleans’ North Shore for their second park. The then little town of Orlando, Florida offered Disney everything while Louisiana’s politicians demanded everything. After a while, Walt Disney realized Orlando would always “give” to him and his company, while New Orleans and its seedy leaders would always be asking for something. Florida offered Disney major incentives while Louisiana had its hand out. The savvy Disney went to Florida and the rest is history.


Posted by Shankopotomus
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Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:38 pm to
Top Golf Nola
Posted by Budge
Member since Jan 2007
76 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:44 pm to
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Can you think of anything in the past 10 years?

Yes, several but everyone was/is under NDA.

"In the running for but didn't get" means different things. Some were just bad luck and timing. Incentives are not why companies locate; incentives are why companies take the initial conversation and they may help close the deal but more as a signal toward the company's board that the state is willing to help de-risk what is inherently a risky proposition, irrespective of location.

Once the discussions around talent and alignment are underway, everything becomes secondary. The political types have very little influence over those discussions, as it becomes quickly clear - particularly in technology - that the regional or local stakeholders have limited value add.

There are ways to do this well, aggressively, and unified, but that's for another thread.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
25527 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 4:49 pm to
There was this badass water park off of I-10 at the Iowa and Lacassine exits. I think exit 48?

They actually did choose to build. For all of the hate it’s received, it will be well worth it when the gem finally opens its doors this Spring. My little nephew is stoked.



Posted by Nephropidae
Brentwood
Member since Nov 2018
2386 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:09 pm to
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BThere was this badass water park off of I-10 at the Iowa and Lacassine exits. I think exit 48?
success brings more success. I think once it opens and brings folks from as far west as Houston and far east as Mobile, people will start to realize how great Louisiana is. Then we get the Buccees, then better schools, better parks. Then we get the FANG companies. But it starts in Lacassine.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 7:13 pm to
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Home boy has actually expanded his delusion


Steampunk Fantasy Theme Park

Wake the children and warm up the Custom Cruiser. We're going to the neckbeard museum.

Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5767 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 8:32 pm to
Disney was a myth.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9464 posts
Posted on 1/21/22 at 9:05 pm to
My wife's father was one of the lawyers representing Disney in NOLA. Early 60's on a family trip he met them as they got off the monorail. My wife a little girl at the time thought he did that for everyone.

Yes, they were serious about Louisiana. From what I have been told by general legal counsels of major chemical companies is that it is not as much the state as it is local politicians with hands out. In today's world. Plaquemines and Ascension parishes are the worst from what I've been told.
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