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re: West Virginia University going down the Toilet

Posted on 5/28/23 at 7:22 am to
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45408 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 7:22 am to
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West fricking Virginia

I am from BFE Alabama and don’t personally care about BFE West Virginia. I give af about keeping the hampster wheel rolling.

This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 7:30 am
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
8942 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 7:27 am to
Gordon Gee not doing his magic? He was so wonderful to the rest of the SEC while at Vanderbilt.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
37828 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 7:31 am to
The suggestions in this thread at how to fix universities in the US are retarded.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45408 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 7:33 am to
Your suggestions were very wisdomous, as usual though.

Anyways, stay tuned regarding this institution. I have a feeling more is coming down the line for this institution and we can only hope its problems are local to its governance.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 7:44 am
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
25051 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:56 am to
You used to have to be scholarly to get in and stay in. Now it's an expensive glorified high school or community College for most of the student body.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:58 am to
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The number of kids enrolled in business, education and engineering is large and those programs are profitable.

The number of kids majoring in ballet, ceramics and Ancient Greek literature is small and losing money.


Please cite me stats b/c I'd imagine business and engineering are much more expensive than liberal arts programs.

I'm not talking career earnings, but cost to the university.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 8:59 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 8:59 am to
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failing to fulfill the critical role they are supposed to play to our society.


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College is no longer preparing kids for the for the jobs they will face or for the basic realities of the real world.


Clearly you understand the "role they are supposed to play to our society" and aren't trying to make universities trade schools
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452011 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:01 am to
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Now it's an expensive glorified high school or community College for most of the student body.

Exactly. Or a trade school.

There needs to be a split between actual universities (who get degrees and an education) and glorified trade schools (who get certificates in specific areas).

The "trade school" option is basically an extra year of community college and should be seen with that level of respect.
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
1831 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:05 am to
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Idaho, NH, Maine, Montana, and Vermont are all comparable states and their flagship universities have half the enrollment of WVU


Your comparisons are strange, in my opinion. For example, Idaho State and Boise State both have higher enrollment than University of Idaho. Private BYU Idaho has the largest undergraduate enrollment in the state.

Maine has a branch campus at every wide spot in the road.

Montana State is the better school in the state; I wouldn’t consider University of Montana the flagship.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
10731 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:10 am to
Colleges only get paid from Collected/paid loan amounts. Watch how fast the system changes/improves.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 9:11 am
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
43623 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:14 am to
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Colleges need to move online. Cut 90% of costs, sell buildings, save taxpayers billions a year.


How many campuses could we close, cut the college and turn into immigrant micro cities?

All of the services are there, healthcare, entertainment, housing, sports and recreation, public, transportation, stores and kitchens.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45408 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:25 am to
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How many campuses could we close, cut the college and turn into immigrant micro cities?

These ideas only sound less radical after shite hits the fan and we become a one world government. You ate my thread. I’m 34 and have two young kids. I don’t really care about such radical changes.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130450 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:27 am to
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How many campuses could we close,


90% of every campus could close and no one would notice.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44048 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:30 am to
Look at the number of faculty. Now look at the number of administrators. You’ll find your problem there.
Posted by ManyTiger
Member since Jun 2020
790 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:42 am to
Those college administrators are really smart people, they’ll figure it out.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
46230 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:42 am to
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A kid can still major in ballet,

if he pays for it - or can scrounge up a sponsor on his own - NO STATE MONEY for anything other than STEM courses.

And nobody should loan money for 'college expenses' other than the college itself. Let THEM gauge the 'scholastic aptitude' and 'worth of the degree' being sought wrt the ability of THIS person working in THAT field being able to pay back the loan.

IF the college itself doesn't agree that this particularly combination of person/degree is likely to be in a position to repay the loan, then THEY should be the only one LOSING MONEY on the 'deal.'

In fact, they should not even waste space in their classrooms if it is filled with people who they KNOW cannot on their won, using the degree they are seeking, repay the cost of the tuition and housing associated with that form of study. Receive that shite for the wealthy neer-do-wells who just need to add more gloss to their appearances.

I do NOT want to donate one red CENT to it.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 9:44 am
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
31650 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:43 am to
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Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45408 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:51 am to
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Those college administrators are really smart people, they’ll figure it out.

Despite their hefty compensations they have already admitted they suck snd cannot figure it out. They have already hired at least two different consulting firms and neither could figure it out as well.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24853 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 9:56 am to
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Despite their hefty compensations they have already admitted they suck snd cannot figure it out. They have already hired at least two different consulting firms and neither could figure it out as well.


I’m going to go ahead and say there is zero incentive for any college admin to minimize expenses throughout the year. Doing so would simply guarantee them a lower budget going forward, no matter the potential expenses in a given year.

I’d bet they are encouraged, around the end of the fiscal year, to spend all remaining funds, no matter how ridiculous the expenditure.

This is how most Higher Eds work.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 10:02 am to
The kids running up 6 digit student loans getting useless degrees, only to have the Dims want to forgive all those bad choices is where cuts need to happen first. Spending all that money for a degree that only leaves the recipient qualified to schelp fast food or some other minimum wage job is a huge drain.

Universities are happy to offer all these useless degrees, in many cases, keep adding them to keep pace with the work playbook, and will be resistant to cutting any of them.
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