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re: Weight loss drug (Semaglutide) cut major adverse cardiovascular events by 20 percent
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:35 am to BawtHouse
Posted on 8/9/23 at 12:35 am to BawtHouse
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I’m happy you are healthy and able
I'm not healthy, or at least I wasn't. I took 40 mg of hydrocodone a day to function for years. I was told I may never walk again and still have partial paralysis in one leg. I decided to take back my lfe and got off the opiods cold turkey and went throuh withdrawals. I dealt with the pain while researching anti inflammatory diets. I started eating different and the pain lessened over the course of a few months. Then I started lifting. I'd make it a couple months and try to do too much and injure myself and get setback for months, then start all over. It's been 7 years and I don't take anything but occasional aspirin / ibuprofen. My physique and weight are the same at 48 as when I played 7s rugby in college
More than most people, I could use my condition as a valid excuse to be unhealthy and anyone would have pity on me and tell me it's not my fault. But I chose to go another route and study how to heal myself through food. 99+% of people can do the same but it's hard to change and easy to latch on to excuses.
“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't – you're right,”
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Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:31 am to tigerskin
Can you drink alcohol while on it?
Posted on 8/9/23 at 1:42 am to Bubb
I took Rybelsus for 2 days and spent 3 weeks randomly breaking out into hives, having chills, sweating, and the absolute most foul-smelling and watery diarrhea imaginable. I had to visit the toilet at least 200 times in that 3 weeks.
A few nights I consulted a Dr on advice as to whether I should go to the ER.
That was just from taking 2 5mg pills.
I suspect I would have certainly needed serious medical attention had I taken one of the injectable semaglutide meds.
A few nights I consulted a Dr on advice as to whether I should go to the ER.
That was just from taking 2 5mg pills.
I suspect I would have certainly needed serious medical attention had I taken one of the injectable semaglutide meds.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 5:47 am to tigerskin
I take Ozempic, not for weight loss, but for Diabetes. Haven't noticed side effects except maybe looser stools.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 6:21 am to Wing T
There is a reduction in lean body mass shown in the studies
The skinny fat drug that may or may not cause cancer and frick your gut motility to hell
The skinny fat drug that may or may not cause cancer and frick your gut motility to hell
Posted on 8/9/23 at 6:29 am to tigerskin
You know what doesn’t need a study…eating healthy and exercising everyday. Fat useless fricks
Posted on 8/9/23 at 6:37 am to tigerskin
Is the reduction in cardiovascular events by semaglutide superior to any reduction in cardiovascular events through losing weight naturally?
Posted on 8/9/23 at 6:41 am to AUstar
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The side effects cannot be worse than walking around just waiting for a heart attack because you fat as frick.
None of this happens in a vacuum. There is a downside or side effect that they haven’t figured out yet. I don’t know what it is, but there will be one or more.
I’m amazed at what people are willing to do in order to avoid exercise. Forget about diet for a minute. Simply working out several times a week would be infinitely better than taking a shot of some chemical.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 6:52 am to ThirdCoast13
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So I've been on it 3 months. Not obese. Just not in game shape anymore. 5'10, 39 years old and weighed 198lbs when I started. Shift work and Terrible eating habits. Was $450 for about 5 months worth. No side effects I've seen. Reduced appetite, no more sweet cravings, etc. I'm down to about 175lbs. Done thru the shot and much improved eating habits.
Good for you, but you could have lost that weight with just improved eating habits.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 6:59 am to BawtHouse
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Continuing to think like the quoted text above is an impediment to acceptance and access. What would you expect to occur when someone stops taking their heart disease pills? Or their insulin? Think different.
I will think different.
We went through a pandemic that killed fat people and the best you can come up with is take a shot?
No thank you. I got off my arse and rode my bike and ran for those two years.
Never got covid, lost a bunch of weight and am not a slave to medication. (Yearly booster)
So yes, thinking differently would have saved lives. But we want the easy way that rarely works out.
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 7:01 am
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:04 am to ThirdCoast13
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Not obese. Just not in game shape anymore. 5'10, 39 years old and weighed 198lbs
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:07 am to olgoi khorkhoi
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99+% of people can do the same but it's hard to change and easy to latch on to excuses.
This is where you get off course with the facts. This is proven inaccurate. Very happy you found your path to healthier living. “I did it, so you can do it too” is old school thinking that is dangerous to progress. There are people that have chosen not to take heart disease medicine and lived a long time with their heart disease. Just because one person did it, should everyone with heart disease stop taking medicines that are proven to help with heart disease? Of course bot.
It’s the same thing. The difference is that society has accepted heart disease as a disease and heart disease doesn’t show on our outside. Obesity is a disease, but society as a whole has not accepted that it is a disease…yet.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:08 am to greenbean
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Can you drink alcohol while on it?
Yes
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:08 am to BawtHouse
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I’m happy you are healthy and able. Everyone is not like you. Doesn’t make you better or worse than anyone else. Just different.
Why are these hormonal imbalances so prevalent in the US?
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:12 am to r0cky1
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Do you also believe the Earth is flat? No? Why not? That is just as factually accurate as the disease of obesity being caused by “laziness” or a lack of will power.
Not to say there aren’t exceptions, but the overwhelming majority is due to hormone imbalances. It’s known to be genetic. It’s correctable…with medicine or surgery.
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You know what doesn’t need a study…eating healthy and exercising everyday. Fat useless fricks
Do you also believe the Earth is flat? No? Why not? That is just as factually accurate as the disease of obesity being caused by “laziness” or a lack of will power.
Not to say there aren’t exceptions, but the overwhelming majority is due to hormone imbalances. It’s known to be genetic. It’s correctable…with medicine or surgery.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:14 am to BawtHouse
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Not to say there aren’t exceptions, but the overwhelming majority is due to hormone imbalances. It’s known to be genetic.
bullshite. 
This post was edited on 8/9/23 at 7:15 am
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:19 am to BawtHouse
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Not to say there aren’t exceptions, but the overwhelming majority is due to hormone imbalances. It’s known to be genetic. It’s correctable…with medicine or surgery.
I don't have a problem if other people choose to combat their obesity with medicine. I wouldn't do it that way but I don't have some kind of complex where I feel like they're "cheating."
But how did this generic imbalance show up only in the last generation or two? Obesity wasn't this prevalent 40 years ago. What threw everyone's hormones out of whack so quickly?
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:19 am to BawtHouse
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It’s the same thing. The difference is that society has accepted heart disease as a disease and heart disease doesn’t show on our outside. Obesity is a disease, but society as a whole has not accepted that it is a disease…yet
Judging by the dramatic increase in obesity rates in the past 30 years, it must be highly contagious. I wonder what we need to do to stop the spread of such a disease.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:22 am to slackster
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Why are these hormonal imbalances so prevalent in the US?
Great question! My argument(just an educated guess) would be the amount and availability of calorie dense and processed foods and our cultural habits around food. I would never argue we don’t have an issue with our food in the US. Healthy diet and exercise are absolutely recommended.
Pretty simple to understand. Due to the prevalence of calorie dense foods, those with the disease of obesity consume more calories than they would eating less calorie dense foods. The disease exists on all cultures. The delta is due to differences beyond the inflection point, not at or before it.
Posted on 8/9/23 at 7:31 am to tigerskin
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like a blood pressure pill
These are no jokes. Lisinopril is giving me some pretty insane reactions. Chest pain, jacked up my anxiety, and other random things. Doctor thinks I'm insane but I demanded a stress test just so I know it's not my heart.
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