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re: "We don't tell our son 'no,' it upsets him"

Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:32 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:32 am to
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A 2 year old was minding his business tearing up a paper napkin for christ sake...it's not like he was dropping f bombs and spitting spit balls at Peckers fat wife


Exactly. I may be misunderstanding the situation, but it doesn't sound like some godforsaken act like others are implying.

If the parents don't tell the kid no at all, that's another story altogether.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
171174 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:33 am to
who are you kidding? unless the kid is autistic, has severe ADHD, or is cognitively impaired in some way--any adult present should have tried to stop him and diverted his attention elsewhere.

the parents point blank saying they don't tell him no, is the problem.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
17218 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:33 am to
Yeah. Op was probably at fricking McDonald’s.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:34 am to
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If we acted up at a restaurant, madre would drag our arse out of the restaurant til we got our shite together so as to not embarrass the family.


My kids get the belt if they misbehave in public. PERIOD. Pretty lenient at home, who cares about messes and such at home, but in public, I'll take my little kids to a 5 star restaurant any day, they will sit like well behaved ladies and gentleman and eat their meals.

Children want and need discipline. They have their own friends.
Posted by patnuh
South LA
Member since Sep 2005
7442 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:35 am to
If the kid is two and just playing with napkins, then that's a win. The mess he is creating is an afterthought.

Be careful on the not having kids thing. My wife and I were the same way and although precautions were taken, we now have a two year old.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
99045 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:37 am to
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I hope you were eating at Chuck E Cheese because you shouldn’t be bringing a two year old anywhere else. When you have a two year old you either don’t go out to eat or you get a babysitter.


Or you teach your kid how to behave in a restaurant
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:38 am to
quote:


who are you kidding? unless the kid is autistic, has severe ADHD, or is cognitively impaired in some way--any adult present should have tried to stop him and diverted his attention elsewhere.


Every child who doesn't behave in 2017/2018 will be diagnosed with something. They'll pull a diagnosis out of thin air to explain away the behavior. It's easier that way.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24485 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:38 am to
quote:

A 2 year old was minding his business tearing up a paper napkin for christ sake...it's not like he was dropping f bombs and spitting spit balls at Peckers fat wife



I disagree, he wasn't minding his own business nor behaving properly. Tearing up napkins and throwing them on the floor is not behaving correctly, no matter what a kids age you don't just let them do something because they are X years old. Proper parenting is teaching a kid immediately how they should act, no matter how much they actually retain is a different story.

You certainly don't take a kid to a restaurant with no activities and expect them to behave either, if you are crappy you just bring an Ipad or something. Or you bring books, toys, coloring things, etc.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:38 am to
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any adult present should have tried to stop him and diverted his attention elsewhere.


like how? Give him a fork and a knife to bang repeatedly on the table???


He was fricking tearing up a paper napkin
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:41 am to
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the parents point blank saying they don't tell him no, is the problem.



yes I agree, that is the only problem I see here

which I dont believe happened
Posted by tylercsbn9
Cypress, TX
Member since Feb 2004
67259 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:41 am to
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Everything is cool at first. Eating. Laughing. Enjoying ourselves. And then little dude starts tearing up napkins and throwing them all over the floor and on the table. I laugh at first waiting for them to tell him to stop but they just ignore him. It gets to the point where the little bastard has a small pile of trash under his chair from the napkins he's been shredding.


A 2-year old tearing up napkins at a restaurant isn't really a big deal, but
quote:


"we don't tell him 'no,' it upsets him."



is a much bigger problem.


Exactly. This seems to be getting lost by every ragging on him about the napkin.

The napkin; while not a huge deal, it just a symptom of the overall problem.
Posted by Perrydawg
Middle Ga Area
Member since Jan 2014
5162 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:42 am to
quote:

A 2 year old was minding his business tearing up a paper napkin for christ sake...it's not like he was dropping f bombs and spitting spit balls at Peckers fat wife


let them get away with shite at two will just make things worse when they are 3. My son is 2 and we have had many instances where we had to go have a conversation outside when at restaurants. A 2 yo knows boundaries and understand right and wrong. People did not pay money to watch my kid act like a shithead, they are paying to eat a meal. We bring stuff with us to occupy him such as coloring books, but no child of mine will be allowed to act like an a-hole because I am afraid of telling him no.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138865 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:42 am to
true or not, i'm just glad that OP started the conversation
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3856 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:43 am to
My brother’s stepson is 9 and he’s addicted to screens as most kids now a days are.

We’re out to dinner and he has headphones on and looking at a screen playing a game. He takes the headphones off to ask his mom something and I ask him how school is (my friend is his teacher) and ask how he likes her, just making small talk. The little shite looks at me and puts his headphones back on.

I ask him another question and he screams, “Stop messing with me!!” Well that’s my cue to put this little guy in his place. He gets up and goes to tell his mom on me. Instead of her saying, “how about taking your headphones off and have a conversation.” She looks at me and says stop messing with him.

I still don’t talk to him.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138865 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:45 am to
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We’re out to dinner and he has headphones on
the battle is already lost
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:46 am to
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which I dont believe happened


Just conveniently pretend that you don't believe that part. Even though that was the entire basis for the post.

Also continue pretending that a kid throwing trash on the floor at a restaurant is okay. "He's not bothering anyone," except for the fact that the trash he's throwing on the floor will need to be cleaned up, never mind that throwing trash on the floor is unacceptable. It was bad enough (and embarrassing enough) that I got up to clean up his mess. A parent should be able to tell a child what is and isn't acceptable behavior.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 11:49 am
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:47 am to
OP should have taken the child's mother into the bathroom and whipped HER arse.

Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
3856 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:47 am to
quote:

the battle is already lost

I agree. Their response? At least he’s being quiet lazy parenting at its finest.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:50 am to
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can attest to the fruitlessness of arguing with a 2-year-old. You gotta pick your battles, and if shredding paper occupies the little shite while the grown folks are eating...frick it.

I say, let him shred.

Now, if he were throwing knives or something...that's different.

Don't judge too harshly.


bullshite! I don't have battles in public, those happen at home, and I win, period. Because of that, when in public, I get my 4 yr old's attention and give him a simple glare. ALL bullshite stops. If, at that point the wife thinks she needs to have some explanatory conversation, she can take him elsewhere to achieve, not at the expense of others to listen.
We have a very laid back style AT HOME, but there is very little room for error in public....for safety concerns that exist today, I cannot and will not let a small child think he can question a directive given to him.
Public discipline isn't always about safety, but when it is, I want the best result.
Most times, if we are dining with others and kids for some reason, we put the kids at their own table and the older kids handle the small stuff.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 11:52 am to
The kid is just bored. They should just give him something quiet to play with.
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