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re: We are clearly planning to invade Venezuela, right?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:48 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:48 pm to Violent Hip Swivel
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There's class warfare going on right now between the old Venezuelans in America and the new ones.
Yep. The rich classy Venezuelans fled when the communists came into power 20-30 years ago
Now the poor ones are coming in and they dont like it.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:55 pm to dcw7g
Chinese proxy war. China has been using Venezuela to flood our country with illegals and drugs. We’re trying to shut it down.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:56 pm to Monahans
quote:Ok Dick Cheney
I'm all for conquering Venezuela. Just take the oil.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:59 pm to Snipe
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Because the last time the US declared war was world war 2.
Did the War on Drugs mean nothing to you?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:06 pm to HangmanPage1
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Do we want Cocaine Sharks??
Are those worse than Tornado Sharks?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:07 pm to FearTheFish
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Did the War on Drugs mean nothing to you?
What if he/she was stoned the whole time?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:25 pm to The Third Leg
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Pretty clear we don’t want a communist petro state in our hemisphere and we will do what it takes to prevent it.
China. Venezuela. Whoever else. Are any of these dorks really communist countries. Russia tried to spread communism back in the day in order to create a new world order. The only thing that China is trying to spread these days is power. China doesn't care about your country's form of government or you opinion of Vladamir Lenin's writings as long as you let them have their Chinese-owned shite there.
Communism used to be a real threat to the American Century and the world order. Now it's just a catch-all and a partisan talking point to explain away any time Trump acts like a globalist and not an isolationist.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:We unfortunately still have Miss Piggy Graham always ready for war.
John Mccain's body just had a post mortem orgasm.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:34 pm to VolsOut4Harambe
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It is so bad that he refuses to ever go back even to see his extended family.
I have a friend from Venezuela who made the mistake of going back to visit some old friends and family, and ended up getting kidnapped. He hasn't been back since.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:45 pm to dcw7g
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now military having to sign NDAs
What the hell is this about?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:46 pm to mattfromnj
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ended up getting kidnapped. He hasn't been back since
Home or Venezuela?
This is ambiguous.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:48 pm to Cosmo
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There's class warfare going on right now between the old Venezuelans in America and the new ones.
Yep. The rich classy Venezuelans fled when the communists came into power 20-30 years ago
Now the poor ones are coming in and they dont like it.
Because the poor ones burned down their homes and tried to kill them 20 years ago.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:48 pm to dcw7g
This was an interesting segment the other night.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:53 pm to FearTheFish
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Did the War on Drugs mean nothing to you?
It had a symbolic meaning to me.
Kind of like the symbolic war on drugs.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:59 pm to Snipe
If you watch the segment of 60 mins I posted.. And take it at face value, but the American public doesn't want another "forever war" so whatever ends up happening there it will not be called any type of war. It will likely be reported as "attacks" by the mainstream media.
The dude in charge was elected out of office, but he refuses to leave his seat and is a dictator. That allows the US to go in and say they are doing so to restore democracy (was it ever a democratic state?) and we will, but the only reason we care is because of oil.
The dude in charge was elected out of office, but he refuses to leave his seat and is a dictator. That allows the US to go in and say they are doing so to restore democracy (was it ever a democratic state?) and we will, but the only reason we care is because of oil.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:02 pm to SECCaptain
It wasn’t too long ago when we sent troops to another part of the world over oil and got stuck there fighting conflict after stupid conflict.
Also, how is this supposed to work? We just go over there, kill a bunch of people, break their shite, occupy their country and steal their oil…and there’s no consequences for doing this?
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:13 pm to Pax Regis
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Chinese proxy war.
This.
No more belt & roads
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:20 pm to Dadren
Need a military presence to secure the fields, wells and pipelines during production :shrug
And Iraq's oil was divided between the US, UK, Russia, China, France, Italy, Japan, S Korea, Netherlands, Turkey and Portugal, not sure about Afghanistan
LINK
Also I'm assuming it's really done to prevent the people and/or head of state from legitimately nationalizing the resources, which are de facto controlled by foreign nations and military intervention comes into play when that control comes under threat
Hell, the first thing Vietnam did after the Paris Peace Accords was award oil contracts to Exxon and Shell
LINK
The explanation is the Shale revolution, but this chart up to ~2008 is a textbook oil field(s) decline curve and then it inexplicably reverses, right around the same time that Iraq's oil reserves seemingly went poof

And Iraq's oil was divided between the US, UK, Russia, China, France, Italy, Japan, S Korea, Netherlands, Turkey and Portugal, not sure about Afghanistan
LINK
Also I'm assuming it's really done to prevent the people and/or head of state from legitimately nationalizing the resources, which are de facto controlled by foreign nations and military intervention comes into play when that control comes under threat
Hell, the first thing Vietnam did after the Paris Peace Accords was award oil contracts to Exxon and Shell
LINK
The explanation is the Shale revolution, but this chart up to ~2008 is a textbook oil field(s) decline curve and then it inexplicably reverses, right around the same time that Iraq's oil reserves seemingly went poof

This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:24 pm to Cosmo
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Yep. The rich classy Venezuelans fled when the communists came into power 20-30 years ago
Now the poor ones are coming in and they dont like it.
I don’t blame them one bit. It was overwhelming the poor ones that put both Chavez and Muduro in power.
Now they literally can’t even vote Muduro out and they want to run crying behind the people who told them not to vote for those asshats in the first place? I’d be like “f-outta here” too.
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:37 pm to SECCaptain
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Need a military presence to secure the fields, wells and pipelines during production :shrug
Yeah, no thanks.
Are you cool with FedGov sending the young adults in your family to bleed and die in South America over oil when we’re a net energy exporter now? Or, are you yourself willing to?
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And Iraq's oil was divided between the US, UK, Russia, China, France, Italy, Japan, S Korea, Netherlands, Turkey and Portugal, not sure about Afghanistan
I guess the point is that we went over to kick Iraq out of Kuwait and we stayed in the region for nearly three decades. Oil became WMD, WMD, became the Taliban, then ISIS, then “install democracy”. Occupying Venezuela would suck and that’s assuming it doesn’t turn into a proxy war with China, Russia and North Korea who will most certainly be arming them. I think the cost (in lives, equipment, money and being on the same ethical footing as Russia) would be way more than you think.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 3:48 pm
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