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re: We are clearly planning to invade Venezuela, right?

Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:48 pm to
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131497 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:48 pm to
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There's class warfare going on right now between the old Venezuelans in America and the new ones.


Yep. The rich classy Venezuelans fled when the communists came into power 20-30 years ago

Now the poor ones are coming in and they dont like it.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15266 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:55 pm to
Chinese proxy war. China has been using Venezuela to flood our country with illegals and drugs. We’re trying to shut it down.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19164 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:56 pm to
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I'm all for conquering Venezuela. Just take the oil.

Ok Dick Cheney
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4461 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 1:59 pm to
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Because the last time the US declared war was world war 2.

Did the War on Drugs mean nothing to you?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29152 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:06 pm to
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Do we want Cocaine Sharks??


Are those worse than Tornado Sharks?
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
29152 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:07 pm to
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Did the War on Drugs mean nothing to you?


What if he/she was stoned the whole time?
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
9363 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:25 pm to
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Pretty clear we don’t want a communist petro state in our hemisphere and we will do what it takes to prevent it.


China. Venezuela. Whoever else. Are any of these dorks really communist countries. Russia tried to spread communism back in the day in order to create a new world order. The only thing that China is trying to spread these days is power. China doesn't care about your country's form of government or you opinion of Vladamir Lenin's writings as long as you let them have their Chinese-owned shite there.

Communism used to be a real threat to the American Century and the world order. Now it's just a catch-all and a partisan talking point to explain away any time Trump acts like a globalist and not an isolationist.
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
91793 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:30 pm to
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John Mccain's body just had a post mortem orgasm.

We unfortunately still have Miss Piggy Graham always ready for war.
Posted by mattfromnj
New Jersey
Member since Mar 2020
601 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:34 pm to
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It is so bad that he refuses to ever go back even to see his extended family.


I have a friend from Venezuela who made the mistake of going back to visit some old friends and family, and ended up getting kidnapped. He hasn't been back since.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78353 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:45 pm to
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now military having to sign NDAs


What the hell is this about?
Posted by wesfau
Member since Mar 2023
2320 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:46 pm to
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ended up getting kidnapped. He hasn't been back since


Home or Venezuela?

This is ambiguous.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6647 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:48 pm to
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quote:
There's class warfare going on right now between the old Venezuelans in America and the new ones.


Yep. The rich classy Venezuelans fled when the communists came into power 20-30 years ago

Now the poor ones are coming in and they dont like it.


Because the poor ones burned down their homes and tried to kill them 20 years ago.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122093 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:48 pm to
This was an interesting segment the other night.

Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16650 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:53 pm to
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Did the War on Drugs mean nothing to you?


It had a symbolic meaning to me.


Kind of like the symbolic war on drugs.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122093 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 2:59 pm to
If you watch the segment of 60 mins I posted.. And take it at face value, but the American public doesn't want another "forever war" so whatever ends up happening there it will not be called any type of war. It will likely be reported as "attacks" by the mainstream media.

The dude in charge was elected out of office, but he refuses to leave his seat and is a dictator. That allows the US to go in and say they are doing so to restore democracy (was it ever a democratic state?) and we will, but the only reason we care is because of oil.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3241 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:02 pm to

It wasn’t too long ago when we sent troops to another part of the world over oil and got stuck there fighting conflict after stupid conflict.

Also, how is this supposed to work? We just go over there, kill a bunch of people, break their shite, occupy their country and steal their oil…and there’s no consequences for doing this?
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
21871 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:13 pm to
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Chinese proxy war.



This.


No more belt & roads
Posted by SECCaptain
Member since Jun 2025
2168 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:20 pm to
Need a military presence to secure the fields, wells and pipelines during production :shrug

And Iraq's oil was divided between the US, UK, Russia, China, France, Italy, Japan, S Korea, Netherlands, Turkey and Portugal, not sure about Afghanistan

LINK

Also I'm assuming it's really done to prevent the people and/or head of state from legitimately nationalizing the resources, which are de facto controlled by foreign nations and military intervention comes into play when that control comes under threat

Hell, the first thing Vietnam did after the Paris Peace Accords was award oil contracts to Exxon and Shell

LINK

The explanation is the Shale revolution, but this chart up to ~2008 is a textbook oil field(s) decline curve and then it inexplicably reverses, right around the same time that Iraq's oil reserves seemingly went poof

This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3241 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:24 pm to
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Yep. The rich classy Venezuelans fled when the communists came into power 20-30 years ago

Now the poor ones are coming in and they dont like it.

I don’t blame them one bit. It was overwhelming the poor ones that put both Chavez and Muduro in power.

Now they literally can’t even vote Muduro out and they want to run crying behind the people who told them not to vote for those asshats in the first place? I’d be like “f-outta here” too.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
3241 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 3:37 pm to
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Need a military presence to secure the fields, wells and pipelines during production :shrug

Yeah, no thanks.

Are you cool with FedGov sending the young adults in your family to bleed and die in South America over oil when we’re a net energy exporter now? Or, are you yourself willing to?
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And Iraq's oil was divided between the US, UK, Russia, China, France, Italy, Japan, S Korea, Netherlands, Turkey and Portugal, not sure about Afghanistan

I guess the point is that we went over to kick Iraq out of Kuwait and we stayed in the region for nearly three decades. Oil became WMD, WMD, became the Taliban, then ISIS, then “install democracy”. Occupying Venezuela would suck and that’s assuming it doesn’t turn into a proxy war with China, Russia and North Korea who will most certainly be arming them. I think the cost (in lives, equipment, money and being on the same ethical footing as Russia) would be way more than you think.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 3:48 pm
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