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re: Water experts debate 1,500-mile aqueduct from Cajun Country to Lake Powell
Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:37 am to Dawgholio
Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:37 am to Dawgholio
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Jackson MS is 200 miles north of NO. It’s known for swamps and cajans
Not so much swamps and Cajuns, but there is tons of everything you love about New Orleans in Jackson.
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Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:44 am to LSUballs
They are counting river miles I would imagine. But its still retarded
Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:46 am to double d
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Cali sits on an ocean, desalination technology exists. There is the answer for them.
Yes but if they force someone else to burn fossil fuels to supply their needs and doesn’t require them to do so directly, the CO2 doesn’t count.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:48 am to ManBearTiger
Ya got a big ol Ocean right next to you - figure it out, others have - cause we ain't your problem nor gonna be your lame excuse
Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:48 am to rickgrimes
quote:More like 150 miles northwest of New Orleans, in the heart of no-man’s land
Two hundred miles north of New Orleans, in the heart of swampy Cajun Country
It’s even further west than Baton Rouge!
Posted on 8/16/22 at 6:51 am to rickgrimes
Fresh water will be enough to cause a war some day.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:06 am to Dawgholio
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Jackson MS is 200 miles north of NO.
Yep
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It’s known for swamps and cajans
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:07 am to rickgrimes
They dont need to be cutting through Louisiana forest and wetlands for their water.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:08 am to Flashback
No thanks
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:10 am to Flashback
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They dont need to be cutting through Louisiana forest and wetlands for their water.
See, but they need it.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:16 am to rickgrimes
Why woukd you take water from the Old River Control Structure all the way to Lake Powell?
If this were to be a thing, grab the water from the Missouri just north of Kansas City. That area floods regularly so you might even alleviate flooding somewhat. Pipe/pump it overland across Kansas into Colorado up to the front range and into the San Luis Valley around Alamosa. Then you're at around 8,000 ft elevation but you started around 1,000 ft instead of 50 ft, plus the distance is a lot less.
Then the tricky part, pay Elon Musk's BORING company a shite to to go under the continental divide with a pipeline to feed the Navajo Reservoir, which is part of the Colorado River Storage Project and feeds into Lake Powell and then Lake Mead. The good thing about that last segment is it's less than 100 miles underground and it's downhill by about 2,000 ft.
It would take longer to fill because the flow would have to be lower to prevent flooding along the San Luis River, but frick it, they can wait and then once reservoir levels are back up you don't need all the extra volume anyway.
Or just desalination of the Pacific.
If this were to be a thing, grab the water from the Missouri just north of Kansas City. That area floods regularly so you might even alleviate flooding somewhat. Pipe/pump it overland across Kansas into Colorado up to the front range and into the San Luis Valley around Alamosa. Then you're at around 8,000 ft elevation but you started around 1,000 ft instead of 50 ft, plus the distance is a lot less.
Then the tricky part, pay Elon Musk's BORING company a shite to to go under the continental divide with a pipeline to feed the Navajo Reservoir, which is part of the Colorado River Storage Project and feeds into Lake Powell and then Lake Mead. The good thing about that last segment is it's less than 100 miles underground and it's downhill by about 2,000 ft.
It would take longer to fill because the flow would have to be lower to prevent flooding along the San Luis River, but frick it, they can wait and then once reservoir levels are back up you don't need all the extra volume anyway.
Or just desalination of the Pacific.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:17 am to rickgrimes
So they want to push water uphill ?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:20 am to LSUBoo
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Or just desalination of the Pacific.
Easier and probably way cheaper.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:22 am to ccomeaux
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So they want to push water uphill ?
It appears they have never been taught what the continental divide is, and/or what makes water flow naturally in a certain direction.
I"m no ok with this pipeline of water. Too many Caribou will die b/c of it.
and if this ridiculous plan every actually came to fruition, they would be bitching to high heaven about how dirty their lake is compared to its pristine water now.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:24 am to frequent flyer
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Easier and probably way cheaper.
And would actually help the problem. A pipeline won’t do shite cause it’ll take too long and it allows for a whole bunch of people across a lot of states to wet their beaks. That’s why it’s being considered instead of the more obvious logical solution.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:25 am to rickgrimes
On paper it's a good idea. It's one of those things that just won't happen with representative democracy. Too many people would have to agree.
Desalination is the answer for water shortages. Technology is advancing but it still takes so much power to operate. The most efficient and largest is not far from a fission plant in San Diego.
Desalination is the answer for water shortages. Technology is advancing but it still takes so much power to operate. The most efficient and largest is not far from a fission plant in San Diego.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:28 am to Napoleon
Introducing one body of water, into another, will have environmental impacts.
Dam up the red and arkansas rivers. Pump that water over the mountain, oe through, to a new reservoir on the colorado
See how this works. Someone will be impacted somewhere.
Dam up the red and arkansas rivers. Pump that water over the mountain, oe through, to a new reservoir on the colorado
See how this works. Someone will be impacted somewhere.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:33 am to rickgrimes
Why don’t they just build desalination plants?
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:39 am to rickgrimes
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But desert defenders pushed back. John Neely of Palm Desert, California, responded: "All of these river cities who refuse to give us their water can stop snowbirding to the desert to use our water. The snowbirds commonly stay here for at least six months. Do they thank us for using our water? No. Do they pay extra for using our water? No. They’re all such hypocrites. My water, your water. My state, your state. Last time I heard, we are still the United States of America."
This dude can suck a giant bag of dicks and I don't live along the Mississippi but I live along the Ohio. Never been to California in my life so frick off.
Posted on 8/16/22 at 7:40 am to rickgrimes
No, just... no.
The first issue is there's almost 2,000 miles they'll need to run that pipeline. As we've seen with oil, that's doable.
The second issue is that they'll need to run that pipeline north (from ORCS to Lake Powell) and UP over 3,000 feet.
The third issue is that the Mississippi River water is incredibly dirty, this means constant supervision of the pipeline to keep it from clogging. To go along with this, the environmentalists would freak the frick out over various new organisms being introduced into a foreign environment. This would necessitate a pretty hefty (and costly) filtration system.
The fourth issue is the other states between these two destinations. You don't think Texas is just going to let tons of much-needed water pump through their panhandle without wanting time? Or New Mexico? I'm sure Alburquerque would appreciate some as well.
Could it be done? Sure. We have put people on the fricking moon. Should or will it be done? No, there's no chance in hell.
The region would be better served pulling that water from rivers coming out of Canada (if that could be negotiated), down into Flathead Lake (Kalispell) then to the Great Salt Lake and then down to Lake Powell. This would be about half the distance and "only" around 2,500 feet below what it would be to get that water from ORCS (but at least it would be moving south instead of north).
And even that would be a massive physical and legal task.
The first issue is there's almost 2,000 miles they'll need to run that pipeline. As we've seen with oil, that's doable.
The second issue is that they'll need to run that pipeline north (from ORCS to Lake Powell) and UP over 3,000 feet.
The third issue is that the Mississippi River water is incredibly dirty, this means constant supervision of the pipeline to keep it from clogging. To go along with this, the environmentalists would freak the frick out over various new organisms being introduced into a foreign environment. This would necessitate a pretty hefty (and costly) filtration system.
The fourth issue is the other states between these two destinations. You don't think Texas is just going to let tons of much-needed water pump through their panhandle without wanting time? Or New Mexico? I'm sure Alburquerque would appreciate some as well.
Could it be done? Sure. We have put people on the fricking moon. Should or will it be done? No, there's no chance in hell.
The region would be better served pulling that water from rivers coming out of Canada (if that could be negotiated), down into Flathead Lake (Kalispell) then to the Great Salt Lake and then down to Lake Powell. This would be about half the distance and "only" around 2,500 feet below what it would be to get that water from ORCS (but at least it would be moving south instead of north).
And even that would be a massive physical and legal task.
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