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re: Water clouds in Jupiter's Great Red Spot mean alien life 'can't be ruled out'

Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:40 am to
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:40 am to
Could it be possible that there exists life forms totally different from any on earth? Maybe some alien life forms don’t need water or aren’t bothered by radiation.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:42 am to
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Are those mini storms towards the northern(upper) pole like the red spot?



I don't know, but I bet Jupiter has a seriously violent atmosphere..
Posted by Purina
Member since Sep 2017
408 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:44 am to
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Could it be possible that there exists life forms totally different from any on earth? Maybe some alien life forms don’t need water or aren’t bothered by radiation.


Whatever the laws of physics and chemistry allow. I've heard the term "silicon based" life forms before.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:47 am to
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Reporting on Science these days seems to be a whole lot of “may” and “almost” and “predict”


FIFY. Gotta keep the public engaged.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:51 am to
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The laws of physics at work. Enjoy the view, because in a billion years a human standing on earth will see nothing. To him there will be no evidence of any planets, galaxies, anything.


Well, a little more than a billion years. If our current understanding of the expansion of the Universe is correct, your scenario will play out in about 100 trillion years.
This post was edited on 9/2/18 at 11:52 am
Posted by Purina
Member since Sep 2017
408 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:52 am to
Predictions are an important part of science. When the prediction fails, it isn't science.

Science and the laws of physics explain everything. Surely nobody is anti-science on this board? I can understand it on that other board.
This post was edited on 9/2/18 at 11:53 am
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31531 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:55 am to
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Could it be possible that there exists life forms totally different from any on earth? Maybe some alien life forms don’t need water or aren’t bothered by radiation.



Sure, anything is possible.

Edit: well not really anything is possible, but the possibility of non-carbon based life or not needing water or whatever we can dream up so long as it conforms to the physical laws of the universe
This post was edited on 9/2/18 at 11:58 am
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:57 am to
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Whatever the laws of physics and chemistry allow. I've heard the term "silicon based" life forms before.


Carbon has been called the "whore of the periodic table" because it will readily bond to so many other elements, including itself. Silicon is not nearly so promiscuous. Carbon would have to be virtually absent from an environment for silicon to stand a chance of getting some life-forming chemical action.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 11:59 am to
We are finally beginning to become smart enough to realize that we really don’t know shite
Posted by Purina
Member since Sep 2017
408 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 12:01 pm to
The cosmological constants (gravity, etc) set the rules. Life is very rare and unlikely (sort of). We should cherish every second.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 12:01 pm to
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We are finally beginning to become smart enough to realize that we really don’t know shite.


Well, it seems that way because knowledge is infinite. Every time we answer one question, it creates far more questions that need to be answered.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 12:05 pm to
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The cosmological constants (gravity, etc) set the rules. Life is very rare and unlikely (sort of). We should cherish every second.


Life is juat a chemical chain reaction. It's probably ubiquitous wherever conditions for its existence arise. It's intelligent life that may be rare. Even that prediction can be changed because of the size of the Universe and the number of its fellow pocket universes.
Posted by Purina
Member since Sep 2017
408 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 12:09 pm to
Are you familiar with Leonard Susskind, Stanford? He's one of my my favorite physics professors. I am not a physicist, but my heroes are...

This post was edited on 9/2/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 1:39 pm to
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Are you familiar with Leonard Susskind, Stanford? He's one of my my favorite physics professors. I am not a physicist, but my heroes are...


Yes. Susskind ranks as my second favorite physicist, behind Einstein. You can take his entire course on black holes on YouTube.
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23224 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 2:55 pm to
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Surely nobody is anti-science on this board? I can understand it on that other board.


I know it may not be politically correct to say it nowdays, but yeah, I'm against science. What the frick are you gonna do about it, pussy?
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19975 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 3:15 pm to
I thought it was a massive hurricane that pretty much would wipe any life out that it came in contact with because of the storms power?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43450 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 3:18 pm to
2 fricking pages and no Jupiter Ascending jokes....
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
10068 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 8:48 pm to
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Zero chance, Jupiter emits far too much radiation and the aptmosphere is too turbulent to ever give life a chance to actually take hold. 



The mistake is relating life on Earth with all possible life
Posted by GetEmTigers08
Mississippi
Member since Dec 2007
1242 posts
Posted on 9/2/18 at 10:41 pm to
Susskind is awesome. His online lectures on black holes, entropy/information, and holograms are top notch stuff.

About Jupiter, it’s really cool thinking about the range of pressure from the edge of it’s atmosphere down toward its core. At the right altitude and conditions, you can have water clouds, but at different conditions and altitude the pressure is so intense there exist a form of carbon, quite literally diamond, that is goes from solid to liquid.
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