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re: Was Huey Long shot by Weiss or was it a stray bullet from one of his body guards?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:49 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:49 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 5/3/26 at 9:58 pm to 308
No one really knows. Weiss had dozens of bullets in him from the bodyguards. There are a lot of books about the subject.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:05 pm to samson73103
Actually, he was more of a socialist . Promoting himself as a common man advocating for the poor and disadvantaged, But living high, expensive and flamboyant on the taxpayer’s dime.
Posted on 5/3/26 at 10:17 pm to RobbBobb
Why are the facts your stating not previously surfaced? H.T Williams - the person who published the most definitive book on Long, never mentioned any of this ?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:38 pm to kew48
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H.T Williams - the person who published the most definitive book on Long, never mentioned any of this ?
T Harry Williams wrote his book in 1970. The notes of a police file on the possible conspiracy werent found until 1991, in the home of the Commander of the Louisiana State Bureau of Criminal Investigation daughter's home. Weiss' gun was also found in the file. It had one spent shell. None of the others had been fired
LSP reopened the case in 1992
Facts from the 1935 police file
* 7 eyewitnesses said they saw Weiss shoot Huey at close range
* Huey was only shot one time
* There was a clear entry and exit wound, and no bullet was recovered from Huey
* Long lived for 30 more hours, and continually stated that Weiss had shot him
* Witnesses also staled that Huey immediately said "I'm shot", and turned to flee the scene. For his bodyguards to have shot him, they would have hit him in the back
* Long wore a light colored suit jacket that had burn marks and "sooty residue" surrounding the entry wound. This only occurs at very close range
Also
* The marks on Longs jacket matched the crime labs test firings from 1992
* The comparison of the 1935 photos and the 1992 marble in the capitol do not match. The marble had been changed out. The photos following the assassination depict no bullet indentions in the marble
* The theory of ricochet bullet was disproved by the residue on Long's jacket left by a close contact discharge
Cold case report on the Original 1935 conspiracy file of HPL assassination
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:24 am to RobbBobb
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* Huey was only shot one time
* There was a clear entry and exit wound, and no bullet was recovered from Huey
Dr Vidrine, the surgeon of record, stated that two bullets were recovered from Long, one being a .38. The observed wound was reportedly caused by a .22, .32, .38, .45, or a combination of two.
LINK
Also, as stated in your link to the 1992 report, the fired .32 caliber projectile recovered with Weiss' gun was determined not to have been fired by that gun.
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* Long lived for 30 more hours, and continually stated that Weiss had shot him
Do you have another source for these statements? Because the 1992 report you linked simply states that Long and the witnesses didn't identify anyone other than Weiss "to [his] knowledge."
We do know that a letter from Dr Ochsner and an affidavit from Long's nurse stated that Long had a cut/bruised lip, where Long claimed Weiss "hit" him. However, this incident isn't acknowledged in the 1935 or 1992 file.
I'm just skeptical of a heavy reliance on matching evidence to the witness statements from 1935 because a cover-up at that time is definitely plausible to me. The 1992 report even admits a "distressing" absence of a chain of custody for the physical evidence tested.
Why did Weiss schedule surgery for the following morning if he was going to kill the most powerful man in the state? How come nobody confirmed he punched Long when Long said he did? Why was Weiss' car moved? How did his keys and the alleged murder weapon vanish? Why was there no ballistics investigation in 1935? Why were there no autopsies performed on Long or Weiss in 1935? Why did the investigator for Long's life insurance policy determine the death was accidental?
Posted on 5/4/26 at 6:02 am to DIGGY
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Oswald
Hey now…how many times do I have to say it?
I’m just a patsy!
Posted on 5/4/26 at 6:36 am to 308
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What a bunch of dumbass, unnecessary replies.
First time posting here?
Posted on 5/4/26 at 4:17 pm to nvasil1
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Dr Vidrine, the surgeon of record, stated that two bullets were recovered from Long, one being a .38
He lied. William H. Cook, MD and Clarence Lorio, MD did the majority of the surgery. No bullet was removed from Long. Here is an NIH statement about the surgery report
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The bullet which struck Senator Long entered just below the border of the right ribs anteriorly, somewhat lateral to the midclavicular line. The missile perforated the victim's body, making its exit just below the ribs on the right side posteriorly and to the inner side of the midscapular line, not far from the midline of the back.
Stone and Vidrine discussed the operation, and Vidrine stated that the right kidney was injured and bleeding. Stone asked if Vidrine had seen the kidney, and Vidrine replied that he had only felt it. Apparently an argument ensued regarding the cursory nature of the operation
Stone felt this confirmed the major renal injury, and he and Maes felt—and all senior physicians agreed—that Long was too unstable to withstand reoperation. Some junior physicians present that night questioned the decision given the patient's steadily declining course
In Long's case, no x-rays were taken preoperatively, and the patient did not undergo urinary catheterization until the postoperative period. Presumably Long died as a result of ongoing retroperitoneal hemorrhage from a renal injury not diagnosed preoperatively and not addressed intraoperatively.
Long had particularly alienated the medical community in Louisiana, especially in New Orleans. As a result, it appears that many of the medical consultants that night were passive, indecisive, and noncommittal and did not want to be involved. They were more than willing to let Vidrine take all of the responsibility.
Also the anesthesiologist that was used had previously issued this statement
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“If I ever give Huey an anesthetic, I will put him to sleep for good”
This Dr also served as a pallbearer for Carl Weiss
Long wore a double breasted suit, with only one entry wound verified on his jacket. The 1992 report debunked Vidrines statement by demonstrating Huey's T-shirt and dress shirt had a matching entry wound as the jacket
Vidrine could have been in on the plot. Its pretty recognized at this point that the surgery was botched
Also there were death threats, arson attempts, a drive-by shooting at his New Orleans home, and a report of a New Orleans assassination meeting with doctors, lawyers, and elected officials in attendance back in July.
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Why did Weiss schedule surgery for the following morning if he was going to kill the most powerful man in the state?
Weiss did a lot of odd things
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On the evening of September 8, 1935, Weiss told his family that he was going to check on patients at the local hospital. Instead, he went to the state capitol and quickly approached U.S. senator Huey Long.
He approached Huey twice about not following thru with the redistricting. After it finally passed. he walked up and shot him. Why did he bring a gun with him? Thats the only question you need to answer for yourself
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An affidavit from Long's nurse stated that Long had a cut/bruised lip, where Long claimed Weiss "hit" him. However, this incident isn't acknowledged in the 1935 or 1992 file.
She also lied. She wasnt his nurse, she was a student worker. And made her statement decades later. Also, the state police officer that took the gun away from Weiss never reported a punch. Neither did any presiding doctors, nor Huey Long. But heres a statement made in 1935
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Bodyguard Joe Vitrano, told Ed Reed that he trailed Huey Long out of the Capitol that night and witnessed Long slip as he reached the bottom of the stairs, smacking his head against a wall and splitting his lip.
And finally, there was no stray bullet. There was a single contact wound at close range in Longs jacket, and he fled the room immediately. A stray bullet doesnt leave scorch marks and sooty residue behind. All eyewitnesses verify that account. And the jacket, T-shirt, and dress shirt verify the close contact discharge from the gun. Also, photos from the assassination, and a next day examination showed no bullet indentions on the marble. The marble has since replaced, so the indentions seen today are just defects. These are not images of a ricochet bullet striking with enough force to exit a 200 lb mans body

Posted on 5/4/26 at 4:23 pm to 308
I always wondered if he would have ever become president had he lived. He was crazy ambitious.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 4:24 pm to genro
Apparently I’m the only, but I thought this was hilarious
Posted on 5/4/26 at 4:47 pm to kew48
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he was more of a socialist
Either way, good riddance
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:52 pm to grizzlylongcut
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Either way, good riddance
His legacy continues to haunt this state.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:04 am to fightin tigers
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fightin tigers
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Trump......he certainly has communist vibes
tell us some things you know about communism.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:17 am to 308
My great grandfather was one of the first policeman on the scene. He was interviewed many years later by a relative for a history journal article. He described when Weiss was rolled over and stated that he was shot multiple times. Have always heard that Long was likely struck by a stray round that was one of many fired by his bodyguards.
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:23 am to StanSmith
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My great grandfather was one of the first policeman on the scene. He was interviewed many years later by a relative for a history journal article. He described when Weiss was rolled over and stated that he was shot multiple times. Have always heard that Long was likely struck by a stray round that was one of many fired by his bodyguards.
a very good friend of mine was related to Judge Benjamin Pavy, his grandson I believe, I never really knew about that connection when we were younger, and his parents are gone, but I wish I'd have heard more about this from what they knew
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:58 am to 308
I don't know why, but I remember the location and quantity of bullet holes being completely different back when I went to capitol building as a kid vs where they are now.
I would have bet a lot of money that it was in that hallway sort of to the left when you walk in the front door and there was a LOT of them.
but there's really only ONE and it's in that back corridor that connect the left hallway (that I thought I remember seeing them) to the right hallway.
I would have bet a lot of money that it was in that hallway sort of to the left when you walk in the front door and there was a LOT of them.
but there's really only ONE and it's in that back corridor that connect the left hallway (that I thought I remember seeing them) to the right hallway.
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