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re: Was Christopher Hitchens Most Enlightened Thinker of Our Time?

Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:15 pm to
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For me Hitchens was smart but to call him the most enlightened,am is a stretch. He isn't even that we'll versed in philosophy

I agree with you. He was a brilliant debater. But that alone should shield him from the "moron" comments.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:23 pm to
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I agree with you. He was a brilliant debater. But that alone should shield him from the "moron" comments.


he was very clever to come up with those arguments. But I don't think the most clever person is necessarily the most enlightened person, and outside of science, he doesn't show much intelligence in other fields.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Clint Torres
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:24 pm to
Hitchens was not a scientist FWIW
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:27 pm to
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he was very clever to come up with those arguments. But I don't think the most clever person is necessarily the most enlightened person, and outside of science, he doesn't show much intelligence in other fields.



first, I appreciate you actually having mature debate over him. Second, your last assertion that he doesn't show much intelligence other fields is inane. His literary and historical criticism is extremely profound. I'm not sure if you've looked into it. I'd start by reviewing his work for Vanity Fair and the Atlantic. It's a complete 180 in tone and substance from his religious stances. The range of topics he covered well is mind blowing

Indonesia

Dickens

India
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 4:29 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:29 pm to
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The man was a simpleton
From what I have read on him, this is the most accurate statement in this thread.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:31 pm to
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rom what I have read on him


so absolutely nothing? You would literally shite yourself trying to hold a conversation with him.

I just linked three in depths articles written by him if you're interested, I'm sure you're equally well versed in Dickens and have traveled extensively throughout Southeast Asia to cover Islamic terrorists attacks in the region
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 4:36 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:32 pm to
how's 10th grade going?
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:50 pm to
I haven't studied Hitchens outside of his comments on religion and God. I see his poor knowledge of philosophy so that is why I say he isn't the most enlightened thinker of our time.

I made an assumption and I was wrong. But I'm not backing off my philosophical point. He may be one of the smartest persons but when it comes to discussing religion and god he falls well short of what he actually needs to know to be able to debate it. Because he falls so short on what he primarily argued, and what is most well known for I find it hard to believe he is the enlightened thinker of our time.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 4:56 pm to
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so absolutely nothing? You would literally shite yourself trying to hold a conversation with him.


Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35584 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 5:13 pm to
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From what I have read on him, this is the most accurate statement in this thread.

Here's an idea: don't read about him. He actually wrote books and stuff. Read him.
Posted by datdude3384
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 5:16 pm to
This thread is metaphoric in itself, you have too many clear statements with links REG
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 5:20 pm to
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REG861


ty for carrying the torch for me while im at work
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 5:23 pm to
Wow, the more I learn about you. I may have to file suit to force you to change your last name.
Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 6:20 pm to
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and outside of science, he doesn't show much intelligence in other fields.


He wasn't well versed in science. It doesn't take much knowledge of science to debate someone that is claiming the earth is only a few thousand years old, but whenever he wrote or spoke about science, it was clear that his grasp was pretty much par for the course for journalists that occasionally cover science.
Posted by chunk
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 7:09 pm to
When he debated Frank Turek I felt this became obvious. Also considering not all Christians believe the earth to be 6,000 in fact many believe it to be around 4.5 billion years old.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 7:15 pm
Posted by Tbobby
Member since Dec 2006
4358 posts
Posted on 7/9/15 at 7:16 pm to
He was very pro-war, especially against Islam, which pissed off a lot of Democrats because they had to oppose everything GWBush did. He was also very anti-any-religion which pissed off a lot of Republicans. So he basically pissed everybody off. Brilliant man.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 8:05 pm to
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his work for Vanity Fair and the Atlantic



he was a critic, critics like to lick each other butts, you'ed fit right in in that circle of jerks.
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