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re: Was Christopher Hitchens Most Enlightened Thinker of Our Time?
Posted on 7/8/15 at 2:35 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Posted on 7/8/15 at 2:35 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Hitches is more notable than his contemporaries almost entirely due to his speech patterns and quotable one liners. Outside of that, he's nothing special.
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Posted on 7/8/15 at 2:39 pm to Taurus
I am 100% directly opposite from what he belived in or stood for but I enjoyed his writing and his oral skill.
Many poeple disagree with him but to call him a bad debater is a little much. He could debate either side of an issue as good as anyone.
Many poeple disagree with him but to call him a bad debater is a little much. He could debate either side of an issue as good as anyone.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 2:42 pm to Herman Frisco
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Many poeple disagree with him but to call him a bad debater is a little much.
I didn't.
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He could debate either side of an issue as good as anyone.
I agree.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 2:45 pm to Taurus
I bet Christmas at the Hitchens house was interesting
Posted on 7/8/15 at 3:19 pm to LeonPhelps
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I also hate him for being a Marxist and specifically his view on libertarianism.
Yep
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:49 pm to REG861
Out of curiosity did you ever watch Hitchens debate William lane Craig or Frank Turek? YouTube if not and tell me what you think? I found those two of the later debates to be back in forth and very intriguing.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 8:56 pm to REG861
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So far in the anti-Hitchens corner in this thread, we have a guy who wants to be molested as an altar boy, a self described Christian who wants his enemies to suffer and burn in hell, and a gif of a pissing monkey. That's the intellectual caliber that's shown up.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I also hate him for being a Marxist and specifically his view on libertarianism.
Yep
However, his comment regarding "libertarians are more worried about the over-mighty state than the unaccountable corporation" rings true on how many libertarians and conservatives(I'm conservative) think about corporations.
Ron Paul has concerns of the ties of government and corporations, but I've seen many on this board back corporations like "shining lights on a hill" so to speak.
I give Hitchens this, he admits to wanting(did want) further discussion regarding libertarianism even though he favored socialism.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:16 pm to Carson123987
Hopefully you're laughing at how disingenuous his post was.(I doubt it). There were plenty of well thought out and even factual rebuttals to the OP. Plenty.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:16 pm to REG861
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Which he hadn't been for 25 years when he died. I'm assuming you're conservative then? How can you hate him when he basically allied himself with conservatives in his later years?
Because he was too stupid, or too drunk or too envious to realize most of his thought was bullshite until his later years.
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:36 pm to Jake88
Well somebody said he voted for obama so he wasn't a genius.
Know it all athiests are as annoying as holy rollers.
Know it all athiests are as annoying as holy rollers.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:15 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
I never heard of him. If I never heard of him evidently he is/was irrelevant. 
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Posted on 7/9/15 at 1:45 pm to ReauxlTide222
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That's pretty much exactly how I feel about religion. And I'd never claim to be a genius or anything close. What's so special about this guy?
I've never been exposed to any of his writing and don't read about religion either for or against. His quote is pretty much exactly the opinion I've formed on the subject.
You don't have to have half-cocked theories or radically different ideas to be an enlightened thinker.
An enlightened thinker sees the world around him and understands how it functions and how it could function better. He did this in a way that very people in the past 100 years could.
In that quote Hitchens is encapsulating in a simple-to understand way a complex growing sentiment among civilized, intelligent people- that religion is detrimental to unity and peace.
This post was edited on 7/9/15 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:04 pm to Jimbeaux
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nothing one can say to dissuade an arrogant close mind
Exactly. And ironic for many in this thread.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:09 pm to ManBearTiger
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An enlightened thinker sees the world around him and understands how it functions and how it could function better. He did this in a way that very people in the past 100 years could.
He was a noted socialist and Marxist. How could he possibly "see the world around him and understand how it functions" and still hold on to these failed socioeconomic concepts?
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:17 pm to jrodLSUke
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An enlightened thinker sees the world around him and understands how it functions and how it could function better. He did this in a way that very people in the past 100 years could.
He was a noted socialist and Marxist. How could he possibly "see the world around him and understand how it functions" and still hold on to these failed socioeconomic concepts?
He obviously was able to understand how it functions as he rejected those views down the road. You can criticize him for ever having them but he did exactly what you said and relinquished them once he realized they were failed.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:20 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Was Christopher Hitchens Most Enlightened Thinker of Our Time?
Rocket31 is
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:21 pm to TN Bhoy
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What part of him being a moron do you not understand? The man was a simpleton who would have been laughed at by the "intellectual atheists" who came before him.
Exactly he was a part of the new atheist movement, who mostly responded to fundamentalist or evangelicals, he doesn't even come close to critizing some of the biggest Christian intellectuals in history. Aquanias would probably laugh at his arguments.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:21 pm to LeonPhelps
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Hitchens is a giant piece of shite. frick that dude.
He was in the Dark till his death.
Posted on 7/9/15 at 2:25 pm to catholictigerfan
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Exactly
Some of you guys obviously consider anyone who disagrees with you a "moron". That's a dangerous mentality and pretty vain to boot. Disagree all you want but Hitchens was no moron.
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