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re: Was Christopher Hitchens Most Enlightened Thinker of Our Time?
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:23 pm to LeonPhelps
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:23 pm to LeonPhelps
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If there is a heaven and a hell, why would Hitchens, who worked hard to convert people to atheism and who spent a lot of time attacking the most important saint of the 20th century in Mother Teresa ever be allowed into heaven?
Because the God you worship has none of your pettiness and vitriol, even if he does exist. Ghandi had it right...Your Christ was a great man-if only your Christians were more like your Christ.
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:24 pm to Carson123987
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his books are phenomenal
Rowan Williams brings one along to his talks in case he feels that he needs something dumb to break the ice with.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:24 pm to TN Bhoy
I see your altar boy days left quite the impression on you, huh
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:25 pm to REG861
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You should read some of his less political stuff. He wrote mainly on literary and cultural affairs for Vanity Fair and the Atlantic and it's a completely different experience than his polemical stuff (which I can see why some would find it tiresome). He was astonishingly well-traveled and experienced and the perspective he brought to those areas is eye opening.
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:25 pm to Carson123987
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his books are phenomenal.
how so? anything ground-breaking or likely to convert a bunch of fundamentalist christians in there?
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watch his debates on youtube
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Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:28 pm to TN Bhoy
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Rowan Williams
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:30 pm to REG861
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I see your altar boy days left quite the impression on you, huh
I've been an "altar boy" three times in my life, all in the last three months, so...
And this has nothing to do with my beliefs. This has everything to do with Hitchens being a pseudo-intellectual who used large words, verbosity, and polemic to hide his lack of intellect. He was the homeless man's Voltaire.
ETA: Why laugh at Rowan Williams? He's one of the most respected academics in the world. I find his church hilarious and thought he did a terrible job running it, but the man is one of the most brilliant minds of the last century.
This post was edited on 7/7/15 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:35 pm to TN Bhoy
Funny how the world's most revered literary and intellectual minds seemed to think Hitch was worthy of respect. Is Salman Rushdie a 'moron,' too? He's a famous author, by the way. I'd recommend you some of his novels but I think they're beyond your reading comprehension skills, which apparently are limited to novelizations of the Boondock Saints.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:39 pm to REG861
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Funny how the world's most revered literary and intellectual minds seemed to think Hitch was worthy of respect. Is Salman Rushdie a 'moron,' too? He's a famous author, by the way.
Are you seriously putting Salman Rushdie up against Rowan Williams?
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:42 pm to TN Bhoy
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Are you seriously putting Salman Rushdie up against Rowan Williams?
Of course not. Rushdie is so far ahead of a charlatan like Williams, it's insulting to have them mentioned in the same sentence.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:44 pm to TN Bhoy
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I've been an "altar boy" three times in my life, all in the last three months, so...
Congrats on losing your cherry then.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:45 pm to REG861
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Rushdie is so far ahead of a charlatan like Williams, it's insulting to have them mentioned in the same sentence.
I hope to God that you're trolling.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:46 pm to TN Bhoy
So as a Rowan Williams fan, are you also a fan of sharia law? You know, since he endorsed sharia law within the United Kingdom in the name of 'cohesion.' You a big fan of that notion?
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:49 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Hey, where did OP go? I feel like he abandoned us. That's awfully rude of him.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:51 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
how would you really be able to judge that, unless you were at least equally enlightened. and, then, how would you know that?
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:51 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
Most enlightened thinker of our time? Haha, not even close. That's a laughable statement.
He was eloquent, that's for sure. He was good at criticizing people and doing so very brashly. But a lot of his beliefs were backwards and many of his arguments crumble when you think about them at all critically. He defended the war in Iraq up until his death and mocked people who suggested that it wasn't a good idea or that it wouldn't be as easily won as the Bush administration insisted. He often abused science in his arguments, appealing to things like evolutionary psychology that he obviously had no understanding of.
He was eloquent, that's for sure. He was good at criticizing people and doing so very brashly. But a lot of his beliefs were backwards and many of his arguments crumble when you think about them at all critically. He defended the war in Iraq up until his death and mocked people who suggested that it wasn't a good idea or that it wouldn't be as easily won as the Bush administration insisted. He often abused science in his arguments, appealing to things like evolutionary psychology that he obviously had no understanding of.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:51 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
This guy sounds worse than that Jordan maxwell lunatic
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:58 pm to lsucoonass
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This guy sounds worse than that Jordan maxwell lunatic
So you're coming here to comment on a guy you're unfamiliar with? Interesting.
Posted on 7/7/15 at 6:58 pm to Jimbeaux
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"Religion ends and philosophy begins..." That's simply nonsensical. He didn't even really believe such drivel. It really just encapsulates his true essence -> arrogance.
If that impresses you, well, there's nothing one can say to dissuade an arrogant close mind.
It's the idea behind the quote that rings true. That we leave behind garbage like religion and progress past it.
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