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re: Walmart Pharmacists Say Company Ignored Red Flags As Opioid Sales Boomed
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:23 pm to Bringing The Thunder
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:23 pm to Bringing The Thunder
So brave.
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:25 pm to BamaCoaster
I’m sure that’ll go over just like our $2000 stimulus.
Frick McConnell.
Frick McConnell.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:49 pm to alajones
There are very few things people should be on chronic opioid pain meds for. If you need to guzzle down a percocet tablet every 6 hours, it means your problem isn’t fixed.
This also goes hand in hand with modern medicine. Americans have a pill problem. It’s like someone comes in and they just throw scripts at them so they leave. Don’t worry about trying to change your lifestyle, here is some metformin, Lisinopril, and Atorvastatin. Should hold you until your diabetes progress because you’re still shoveling sugar down your throat or you have a stroke.
Another frustrating thing is when someone drops off ER scripts for Claritin, tylenol, and promethazine DM. I mean you really couldn’t tell them, nothing is wrong, go buy some Robitussin, Tylenol and Zyrtec/Claritin OTC?
This also goes hand in hand with modern medicine. Americans have a pill problem. It’s like someone comes in and they just throw scripts at them so they leave. Don’t worry about trying to change your lifestyle, here is some metformin, Lisinopril, and Atorvastatin. Should hold you until your diabetes progress because you’re still shoveling sugar down your throat or you have a stroke.
Another frustrating thing is when someone drops off ER scripts for Claritin, tylenol, and promethazine DM. I mean you really couldn’t tell them, nothing is wrong, go buy some Robitussin, Tylenol and Zyrtec/Claritin OTC?
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:07 pm to WaydownSouth
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There are very few things people should be on chronic opioid pain meds for. If you need to guzzle down a percocet tablet every 6 hours, it means your problem isn’t fixed.
You're right on that one. I have a family member who I take to a pain clinic once a month. He has been going for 20 years or more now due to chronic pain from a neck injury he had on the job. The worst part of his story is the doc the company used for stuff like that examined him post-inhury, told him there was no major damage, wrote him a couple scripts, and gave him a few days off. He never worked another day at that job, and he never got better. Around a year later, while he was still out on worker's comp, that same doc told him he should have had surgery immediately and there was not much he could do to help him now. The company let him go, and he got a lawyer. Eventually, he won a suit and got his back pay and social security, but can never do the work he was doing. He still works, though, making a fraction of what he did as a precision welder.
The clinic he goes to has changed significantly over the years. It is directly affiliated and operated by a local hospital, so I'd hate to see how other, shadier places were ran. Even at his place, while there are still a ton of patients rolled through, they now have very few who appear to be perfectly fine. In that regard, things have gotten much better. Ten years ago, it would only take a few minutes of sitting in the waiting room to see what was going on.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:14 pm to cave canem
Cave Canem you are 100 percent wrong. We must PMP all patients who come in looking to fill any controls and narcotics. I can tell you without a doubt that my drug store monitors every patient looking to get a narcotic filled on the board forum. We are the last line of defense and its our duty to not fill a prescription if we see irregularities. We dont have to fill any prescriptions if we feel it would do harm to the patient. We also would never tell a tech to frick off. The tech is simply doing their job questioning the prescription after looking at their profile history.
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:29 pm to WaydownSouth
quote:Maybe their insurance pays for it?
ER scripts for Claritin, tylenol, and promethazine DM
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:37 pm to OweO
quote:Figures like this make me laugh, when you compare them to how much the industry makes on their drugs. It's like stud high school recruits who take $25K and a new car in exchange for 3+ years of playing for a football program that makes $100MM a year. Do they have no idea of their actual value?
Last year (2019) pharmaceutical research and manufacturing of America spent $20M lobbying elected officials.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:38 pm to Bringing The Thunder
quote:What did you spend that penny on?
Have spent $.01 in 10 years there
Posted on 1/4/21 at 11:41 pm to tigergirl10
quote:Which means we all collectively pay for it.
Maybe their insurance pays for it?
Also probably means they didn't need to go to the ER in the first place. Another much more exorbitant cost we collectively pay for.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 12:49 am
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:42 am to BorrisMart
quote:They're not completely worthless. My wife's job was saved by a union rep after a student she failed accused of her of being a racist. The principal (who was friends with the kids parents) took the student's side but the rep ended up getting it dismissed. The same union, however, prevents some really lazy and incompetent teachers from ever getting fired.
they are now forsure. A lot of our worker's rights that come standard today are only because of Unions. shite the pension fund built Vegas. ? but you are correct they are worthless now.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:48 am to alajones
So Doctor writes prescription for their patient.
Wal-mart pharmacy is not qualified to make the determination whether or not the patient needs the medicine.
Could you imagine if they refused to fill a prescription due to this for someone who legitimately needs it?
Wal-mart pharmacy is not qualified to make the determination whether or not the patient needs the medicine.
Could you imagine if they refused to fill a prescription due to this for someone who legitimately needs it?
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:56 am to alajones
For the 100000000000000000000 time, you can't get opioids, unless a drug dealing MD prescribes it.
How MD's get away scot free is a fricking joke in this crisis.
"Doc, i need to come in, my arm is aching".
"With Covid, were not seeing patients except for emergencies, will a couple months of pain killers help"?
"Sure, couple refills"?
"Sure, 3 refills enough"?
So it is
How MD's get away scot free is a fricking joke in this crisis.
"Doc, i need to come in, my arm is aching".
"With Covid, were not seeing patients except for emergencies, will a couple months of pain killers help"?
"Sure, couple refills"?
"Sure, 3 refills enough"?
So it is
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 1/5/21 at 8:57 am to alajones
Daniel Schneider is gonna be pissed.
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 8:58 am
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:01 am to UltimaParadox
If management attempted to silence pharmacists who brought "red flags" to their attention that would seem to be at odds with their responsibilities as a licensed pharmacy (or, at least, should be).
This post was edited on 1/5/21 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:10 am to alajones
Hope Walmart doesn't settle and shoves it up the government's arse.
However, given the government's record of exonerating itself (Waco), Walmart will probably be forced to settle.
The federal government is so corrupt it hurts.
However, given the government's record of exonerating itself (Waco), Walmart will probably be forced to settle.
The federal government is so corrupt it hurts.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:16 am to tigerbait3488
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Cave Canem you are 100 percent wrong. We must PMP all patients who come in looking to fill any controls and narcotics
Thats great and all, but the prescribers have access to the same PMP system and most don't bother to check. If they did, I wouldn't have to shoulder the prescribers job of identifying a doc shopper thats filling narcotics all over town. I'm filling 500 rx's a day and really don't have time to research every narcotic that comes through the door. Not sure what its like in your area, but it takes days for clinics to get back, if they even choose to.
This stuff was being over prescribed, sure. I do have many patients (including my mom) who have chronic physical pain conditions that are not fixable. Doctors now tell them to frick right off and they can live in pain cause said prescriber doesn't want to get into trouble with the DEA. I get to watch my mom suffer daily and the pain management people tell her to take aspirin lol. It results in people medicating with alcohol which is far worse than a few pain pills a day. It is also in part a reason for the heroin epidemic. It's not just for kicks, but a way people can cope with physical pain.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:17 am to LegendInMyMind
I dealt with chronic back pain for a few years, and was sent to a pain clinic. Just the experience there made me seek out other remedies to deal with my pain.
The one thing that bothered me the most about the pain clinic was they drug tested you every visit and if opioids didn't show up on the drug test, they would no longer see you. I get that they were concerned that people were selling them instead of taking them, but that seemed obscene to me. I always took my pill bottles with me(may have been required, I can't remember) just in case I pissed clean, because I only took them when the pain was too much to bear. Sometimes that was a few times a day, sometimes there would be 3 or 4 days I didn't need one. Not that I didn't have pain those days, it just wasn't bad enough to need an opioid.
The one thing that bothered me the most about the pain clinic was they drug tested you every visit and if opioids didn't show up on the drug test, they would no longer see you. I get that they were concerned that people were selling them instead of taking them, but that seemed obscene to me. I always took my pill bottles with me(may have been required, I can't remember) just in case I pissed clean, because I only took them when the pain was too much to bear. Sometimes that was a few times a day, sometimes there would be 3 or 4 days I didn't need one. Not that I didn't have pain those days, it just wasn't bad enough to need an opioid.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:42 am to Gravitiger
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Figures like this make me laugh, when you compare them to how much the industry makes on their drugs. It's like stud high school recruits who take $25K and a new car in exchange for 3+ years of playing for a football program that makes $100MM a year. Do they have no idea of their actual value?
Its hard to argue with that, but my whole point is that this is how our government is ran. They don't give a frick how it impacts people as long as they are taken care of. Politicians are just cheap whores.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:47 am to WaydownSouth
quote:
This also goes hand in hand with modern medicine. Americans have a pill problem. It’s like someone comes in and they just throw scripts at them so they leave. Don’t worry about trying to change your lifestyle, here is some metformin, Lisinopril, and Atorvastatin. Should hold you until your diabetes progress because you’re still shoveling sugar down your throat or you have a stroke.
Well my ex-doctor has to make enough money for his next safari. Overheard him flirting with the drug rep (instead of seeing patients) how he couldn't wait to stuff that poor little Caracal for his office.
Posted on 1/5/21 at 9:48 am to Bistineaubengal
He wanted to stuff more than Caracal.. Because I am sure the drug rep was pretty hot. I never seen one that wasn't.
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