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re: Voting yes to more BR road taxes today is like giving O a contract extension.

Posted on 12/8/18 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
19946 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 1:37 pm to
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IIRC they had a similar ballot initiave is in the early aughts and it passed.
this is true

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Yet traffic has not improved.
this is just a dumb generalization. in the areas where the last ballot initiative called the green light program was implemented, traffic has most definitely improved.

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You have almost every street change it's names at least once. Acadian is Stanford, College is Lee and Brightside. Siegen becomes Burbank. Coursey becomes Bluebonnet. It's confusing.

sounds like you understand it, but ok.

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The interstate is horrible as well.
ok

the interstate is a federal/state route, not a city route. this tax is for BR city street improvements.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33146 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 1:38 pm to
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And that’s AFTER millions of dollars have been spent on road improvements.


A lot of those are freeways.

I don’t think EBR should be paying for that on their own. At some point the state and feds have to step up.
Posted by Mr Mom
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2012
798 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 1:48 pm to
So other areas of the country have lower taxes and better infrastructures. Why can’t we use that as a model rather than always just raising new taxes? Again, do more with the money you already have. Efficiency is key.
Posted by InflateADate
Member since Dec 2010
914 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:02 pm to
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So other areas of the country have lower taxes and better infrastructures. Why can’t we use that as a model rather than always just raising new taxes? Again, do more with the money you already have. Efficiency is key.


Where specifically are you talking about that pays lower taxes?
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:04 pm to
Do a search for overall tax burden. It factors in property taxes, sales tax, etc...

Louisiana is ranked #29 and TX is #34. NY is #1
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53814 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Where specifically are you talking about that pays lower taxes?

About half of the country does now. TX, TN, FL, etc

LINK
Posted by InflateADate
Member since Dec 2010
914 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:43 pm to
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TX, TN, FL, etc


All three of those places rely on higher user fees and user taxes like the gas tax, tolls, etc to pay for their transportation needs. Try any of that here and the government is stealing more money
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:46 pm to
I'm sure you're just being funny but I disagree.

Neither entity operates in anything remotely resembling a free market, but TAF has more money than they know what to do with so they don't have to make sound business decisions. TAF for the most part isn't beholden to the same level of regulations in terms of ethics and civil service.

The product produced by TAF is entertainment and promotional, where as the product BRgov is asking for is critical infrastructure.

Furthermore, BRgov actually has a pretty good track record for maintaining their finances - although I have no idea what the new mayor's personal record is.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20734 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 3:48 pm to
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They need to use a very heavy handed immanent domain land gra


frick that and frick you for suggesting it.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
76373 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:20 pm to
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gas tax


Not really, no
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:30 pm to
I paid $1.92 per gallon in Houston yesterday. I'm assuming folks in Louisiana are paying $1.80 as I'm being whalloped by higher gas taxes?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 12/8/18 at 4:34 pm to
No'd all of 'em!!!!
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:56 am to
What's the timeline for the massive road construction to begin?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
131089 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:09 am to
I believe that construction isn’t expected to start until April.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
60202 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:12 am to
I reluctantly voted for the MoveBR tax, but only because Green Light actually worked. The majority of my reluctance is my lack of faith in SWB (I would have been less reluctant if Kip were still Mayor/President) even though there are projects in MoveBR that would impact me directly.

Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71137 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:20 am to
I was disappointed with the number of green light projects that didn’t get finished, but those that did were a huge step in the right direction.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34216 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:21 am to
I am not shocked it passed. Many of the frustrations of people in the community is traffic. It's not because population is rapidly exploding, just that it was poorly designed and not keeping up with the times from the 80's.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71137 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:24 am to
FYI, north Baton Rouge doesn’t have hardly any traffic. The interstate system sucks due to its poor design, but the majority of the bad surface street traffic is in the suburban southern part of the parish. Back in the 80’s, most of that area was farm land and woods. Now, there’s 100k people there. Infrastructure development did not keep up with the pace of population growth and poor planning resulted in a lack of a road grid and redundancy. NBR has a grid. SBR doesn’t.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14616 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:26 am to
Good job on the republicans of the parish getting this tax approved. A move in the right direction for this parish.
Posted by djangochained
Gardere
Member since Jul 2013
19183 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:29 am to
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They need to use a very heavy handed immanent domain land grab and design some smart corridors or the city will have another 100 years of traffic nightmares.



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