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re: Voters rejected a 1-cent sales tax in 2023 to give Livingston Parish teachers a raise

Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
58961 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:01 pm to
frick dem teachers

Everyone should home school their kids
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42309 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:02 pm to
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Student performance?!?! I know, ground breaking idea!


How? Tests before and after the class to track progress? In a perfect world this is the absolute best way, but it needs to be executed in the real world and that’s what I’m asking. How do you evaluate student performance in the real world?
Posted by LSU Neil
Springfield
Member since Feb 2007
3554 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:05 pm to
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Find the money elsewhere


Back in the 90s louisiana passed gambling under the guise of giving teachers raises, and repairing roads, all the things we desperately need.
They quickly made a u turn and dumped it into the general fund and nothing happened with schools or roads. Not surprised at all.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98955 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:05 pm to
Ask the teachers in your family who the best teachers at their school are and why they think that. You’ll have your answer on how to evaluate performance


It’s teachers unions that fight for equal pay to help the shitty teachers
Posted by PaintCompany
Springfield
Member since Aug 2022
1035 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:10 pm to
Frick u
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1617 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:23 pm to
I agree.

I do have dissent towards the central office not prioritizing teachers pay. However, I do fault the general population because a tax was proposed and voted down and another way to fund teacher raises without raising taxes was voted down as well.
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2787 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:31 pm to
Voters are sick of more taxes, the recent proposal to fund a raise didnt seem sustainable to me and an unwise decision. Just with any household or business, if you need more money, the first place you should look is where you can save.
Posted by Lsukinesalum2001
Member since Sep 2022
112 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 9:42 pm to
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Start spending the money you get wisely and cut the dead money and waste.


Hear me out… can libraries receive a cut ? Are they really as necessary as they used to be? I go in the library and the workers outnumber the patrons every time. There are at least 10 people working the library with maybe 5 people there to check out a book… self check out maybe? And library science is a masters. So you are paying people with masters degrees to sit around most of the day and maybe check out a few books. Sorry I’m not against libraries I know they provide some good services but I think there is too much money allotted to them
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1617 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:04 pm to
With respect, I do not think you truly understood the amendment.

LPPS receives around $800k from the trust funds that would have been dissolved. LPPS pays about $8 million towards the TRSL debt each year. They would have lost the $800k from the funds but freed up $8 million in the books at the same time. The $8 million must have been used for teacher pay raises. Members of LPPS also said they received written assurances that the legislature would have replaced that $800k in funding from another non-dedicated education fund.

This was a no-brainer, fiscally conservative yes for me. Any chance to pay off debt at high interest is a win.
Posted by FlagLake
"Da Ship"
Member since Feb 2006
2480 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:25 pm to
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Start spending the money you get wisely and cut the dead money and waste.


This right here. As a teacher of 26 years I have seen so much waste it is sickening. I will give you a prime example that happened just this past week at our school. We had a pothole in our gravel driveway that was about 6” deep and 2’ wide. A parent calls the central office to complain about it. The central office could have easily just called our school and said “Hey, could you maybe get your ag department to throw a couple sacks of quickcrete in that pothole?” This would have cost a max of $20 if that. Instead of doing that they call and have a whole 12 cubic yard truck full of limestone delivered to the tune of $1000. A cool grand to fix a simple pothole. Mind you I teach in one of the poorest districts in the state too. That $1000 could have been used in hundreds of other places. Imagine the waste once you combine all the schools.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Member since Oct 2012
41118 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 10:31 pm to
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There are very few times where there isn't a half day or whole day off of school within a two week time span as it is.


It's like that in private schools too. My kids last day of school is tomorrow and I think he's had maybe 4 weeks of a full 5 days in 2026.

fricking school will take a week off for mardi gras then the next week there's a half day on Friday for teacher development.
Posted by rented mule
Member since Sep 2005
2787 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:07 pm to
I do understand what the amendment was, and i agree that paying off debt is good but the devil is in the details and in this case you are eliminating protected, guaranteed funding in favor of promises. What happens if the savings predicted fall short, which analysts admit is a possibility? The amendment didn't condition the raises based on actual savings, it constitutionally guaranteed them regardless of outcome. Just because lawmakers give written guarantees they'll fund any shortfalls doesn't mean they actually will, or that next administrations will either. It just didnt seem like a good bet to me.
This post was edited on 5/19/26 at 6:51 am
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17873 posts
Posted on 5/18/26 at 11:25 pm to
They can just quit being teachers and go work in the oilfield. Won’t have to worry about pay anymore.
Posted by Dirt Booger
Comanche County
Member since Apr 2023
847 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 12:28 am to
It’s already a fight to keep teachers from putting their own personal feelings in education.

Add the fact that most taxes go to funding the education for kids whose parents don’t contribute and the kids will never use it.

And people are just flat out tired of taxes and don’t care to look at what it’s for.
Posted by TSS_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2013
269 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:29 am to
I believe that teachers are underpaid... I also believe that we are all over taxed... Giving the parish and the state more money for them to mismanage is not the answer...

Its like you keep giving your crackhead cousin cash and he keeps buying crack... now he's starving, is giving him another $ 20 the answer?

The teachers can take it personally all they want... that is their right... but it wasn't a reflection on teacher appreciation...
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
2995 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:43 am to
This is a sales tax that the voters have to approve every so often.

In my area each of these taxes is typically 1% on each transaction. Spend $1? Pay a penny. Spend $100, pay $1.

Each time the coordinated effort occurs to persuade voters to approve the new tax, the supporters describe it as a ‘Penny Tax’. This intentional word choice is used to confuse voters into thinking it is a penny charge per transaction, which is easier for them to support because the total amount taken in is smaller.

Just another trick from your fellow citizens who feel like they have a right to your money.
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
2216 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:50 am to
It is just the principle of no more taxes. You allow 1 cent tax increase, then it is 1 dollar increase, then we go from there.

If teachers want more money they can take up a second or third job like every other person.
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
2216 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:55 am to
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frick dem teachers


This. We need no education. It is only left wing indoctrination on alternate lifestyles and woke nonsense. The only book kids should read is the Bible
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:26 am to
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It's like that in private schools too. My kids last day of school is tomorrow and I think he's had maybe 4 weeks of a full 5 days in 2026.

fricking school will take a week off for mardi gras then the next week there's a half day on Friday for teacher development.


That should not bother anyone; kids are in school too much as it is. At the high performing schools in the area, the kids actually perform better when there is more down time built in to the schedule.

Unlike public schools, privates schools are directly answerable to their customers. If this really were a huge issue that negatively affected learning, there would be immediate pushback from parents.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9307 posts
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:29 am to
The legislature can give teachers pay raises if they wanted to. Voters rejected stealing money from dedicated trust funds to pay them. The state could also quit handing out ITEP exemptions and be awash in money to raise teacher pay.
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