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re: Violent crime dropped an estimated 3% in the United States last year, FBI crime data shows
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:49 am to RLDSC FAN
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:49 am to RLDSC FAN
According to Steve Sailer IIRC the past few years the FBI rolled out a new data collection software, and a lot of cities don’t have the capability to use it or do not have it, thus many city’s data not reflected in FBI statistics at all
Does anyone else know about this and able to confirm or refute it?
Does anyone else know about this and able to confirm or refute it?
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 10:51 am
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Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:49 am to RLDSC FAN
Meanwhile, Birmingham is having a record-breaking year for murder. They don't have enough room in prison for the murderers even if they can find them all.
Think how bad it would be if those statues were still standing in Linn Park!
Think how bad it would be if those statues were still standing in Linn Park!
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:51 am to TooFyeToFly
It depends on whether it's based on real data. Are they collecting the same data as they did years ago? Aren't some municipalities not reporting these days?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:52 am to upgrayedd
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I’m pretty sure the last data the indicated a drop in violent crime had some major metro areas completely excluded from the data set. Besides, in places like NYC and SF, the DAs are completely dropping charges for violent crime.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 10:53 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Memphis must not have been included in that study
New Orleans doesn’t submit data in the new NIBRS format along with other large metro areas. FBI using data modeling to fill in gaps. We all know the FBI can be trusted to report honestly.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:04 am to RLDSC FAN
Yeah no. When it goes up 50 % and then drops 10%, that is not a win for the country. They have already tried that fallacy with inflation.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:06 am to OBReb6
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According to Steve Sailer IIRC the past few years the FBI rolled out a new data collection software, and a lot of cities don’t have the capability to use it or do not have it, thus many city’s data not reflected in FBI statistics at all
Does anyone else know about this and able to confirm or refute it?
It's true, but somewhat irrelevant.
You can go to the individual cities, who do report the data, to see similar trends in the aggregate.
There was a post-Covid spike in crime, which derailed 2 decades of crime falling from their peak (late 80s/early 90s), but that spike is subsiding and crime rates are going back towards their pre-Covid rates.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:08 am to Gaggle
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Not anecdotal, New Orleans had the nation’s highest murder rate in 2022 yet didn’t report to the FBI
LINK
And the murder rate is declining in Nola
LINK
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New Orleans saw its murder rate plummet by more than 40% in the first half of this year, a drop that’s among the largest seen in the nation’s most murderous cities, according to data collected by AH Datalytics.
“This isn’t just New Orleans tracking the national trend,” said Michael Hecht of GNO, Inc, who helped organized the NOLA Coalition, a group of business and civil groups engaged on public safety issues in the city. “We are improving about twice as fast as the U.S. average.”
Murders plunged nationwide in 2023 following a bloody 2022, after which New Orleans stood as the nation's murder capital among U.S. cities. It took the downward trend longer to show up in New Orleans than elsewhere, but the decline since has been swift. The 67 murders NOPD recorded through June 22 represents one of the lowest year-to-date totals the city has seen in decades.
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The data suggest New Orleans may be on a pace now similar to 2019
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:11 am to RLDSC FAN
The New Orleans government is reporting that the crime is declining and everything is great
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:11 am to HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Memphis must not have been included in that study
LINK
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Crime in Memphis has continued its downward trajectory compared to last year's near-record high, Memphis Police Department data presented to the Memphis City Council Tuesday morning indicated.
The data, which compared crime from the first six months of this year to the same time frame last year, showed a 17.5% decrease in major violent and property crimes, which MPD defines as "part 1 crimes."
Violent crime in 2024, compared to last year, is down nearly 8%. Homicides, rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults reported to MPD are all lower than the first half of 2023. There were 20 fewer homicides reported to MPD, along with 13 fewer rapes, 22 fewer aggravated assaults and 386 fewer robberies.
Car thefts have also seen a steep decline in reported incidents, according to the data, with a nearly 32% decrease from this time last year. Theft from motor vehicle incidents have decreased by 21%.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:12 am to SlowFlowPro
Wow if this keeps up maybe they can start reporting to the FBI again
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:14 am to Gaggle
What does reporting to the FBI matter if the data for the city was presented?
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:16 am to RLDSC FAN
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FBI crime data shows
Well if the FBI said it, then it must be true.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
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It's true, but somewhat irrelevant.
It’s not irrelevant if you’re excluding data from a report.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:17 am to SlowFlowPro
FBI data is what’s used for national political purposes
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:18 am to RLDSC FAN
Ok why was crime up?
Let’s start there. To understand why “crime is down”
It’s the same song and dance the democrats do with covid. They say we lost jobs under trump and gained jobs under biden.
That’s because a democrat congress and democrat states basically forced the country to shut down under Trump and let people go back to work under Biden.
That’s not creating jobs
Let’s start there. To understand why “crime is down”
It’s the same song and dance the democrats do with covid. They say we lost jobs under trump and gained jobs under biden.
That’s because a democrat congress and democrat states basically forced the country to shut down under Trump and let people go back to work under Biden.
That’s not creating jobs
This post was edited on 9/23/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:20 am to RLDSC FAN
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Left-leaning commentators and advocates have insisted over the past year that crime rates are falling. ABC’s David Muir asserted so while rebutting Donald Trump during the recent presidential debate. The nation’s largest crime survey says otherwise: Crime rates haven’t been falling, and urban crime is far worse than it was in the pre-George Floyd era.
The new findings were released this month by the National Crime Victimization Survey. Run by the Bureau of Justice Statistics and administered by the Census Bureau, the NCVS dates to the Nixon administration and is one of the largest federal surveys on any topic. It asks some 230,000 U.S. residents annually whether they’ve been the victims of crimes. It then asks about the nature of the crime, whether it was reported to the police, the demographics of the perpetrator and other particulars.
WSJ
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:20 am to upgrayedd
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It’s not irrelevant if you’re excluding data from a report.
They're modeling that data, not excluding it.
Also the modeled data seems to fall within the aggregate trends, which makes this a talking point only (no substance).
This talking point makes an implication that the data is being left out because it's bad, when the data typically is good for the decreasing trend.
Now people are free to move onto the next talking point (without substance): manipulated data.
Then the conspiracy theorists can explain why these jurisdictions manipulated their data to make crime explode....under a Democratic Presidential admin, no less.
Posted on 9/23/24 at 11:21 am to Gaggle
quote:really?
FBI data is what’s used for national political purposes
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