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re: Video shows man forcibly removed from United flight from Chicago to Louisville
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:46 pm to TFS4E
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:46 pm to TFS4E
Sorry if this was already posted but here is a newer video with a bloody mouth and he is saying some like "don't kill me" hard to tell.
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:47 pm to NYNolaguy1
This isn't a United thing...this is for all airlines.
You have probably benefited from an oversold flight...flight sells out...they sell 5 extra seats, in which you bought one of the five...five people who originally bought cancel their flight and you fly on your flight without knowing otherwise.
You have probably benefited from an oversold flight...flight sells out...they sell 5 extra seats, in which you bought one of the five...five people who originally bought cancel their flight and you fly on your flight without knowing otherwise.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:48 pm to Golfer
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This is where I'm perplexed. Stopping at $800 was very short-sighted.
I always volunteer at $1000. I have gotten it a couple of times - neither required an overnight stay.
But I fly Delta and occasionally Southwest. I wouldn't waste my time with United.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:49 pm to theunknownknight
The dude filming him as he gets dragged out in shame 
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:51 pm to Chicken
quote:not stop at $800. this is their frick up. this is where Golfer and I agree. stopping at $800 and immediately going to a hunger games type remedy was a bad idea.
how exactly could United have handled it better?
quote:there are probably about a dozen or so bad decisions made by United before we even get to the doctor. i don't think it's fair to gloss over the frick ups by United and say the doctor should have just done what he was told so he is to blame.
I still think the doctor is to blame because he didn't follow police orders.
United oversold. United did not make travel arrangements for their other crew. United stopped the Voucher offer at $800.
Doctor just wanted to go home.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:52 pm to Golfer
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I wasn't referring to the process of kicking the guy off the plane.
An overbooked flight resorting to that is on United. The situation was created by them failing to offer more than $800 for an overnight delay. That's inadequate today.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:53 pm to Chicken
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flight sells out...they sell 5 extra seats
but why are they allowed to sell extra seats. is their software that shitty?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:54 pm to drexyl
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Doctor just wanted to go home.
The other possibility is perhaps he wanted a higher price and they said no, then called in the goon squad.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:55 pm to drexyl
quote:name them all...all 12+ bad decisions...
there are probably about a dozen or so bad decisions made by United before we even get to the doctor.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:55 pm to dewster
should have offered a free first class voucher to any where in the Continental US. Bet ppl would be jumping at that.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:55 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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why are they allowed to sell extra seats
Because of their carriage contract. You're agreeing to these terms when you fly with United.
Don't like it/them? Fly someone rlse, and I suspect people will.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:55 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:this article is insightful:
but why are they allowed to sell extra seats. is their software that shitty?
LINK
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:58 pm to Chicken
insightful yet bird brained.
this will fix everything. stop accomodating people that are tardy. frick em
quote:
Contrary to what popular perception may be, airlines are not evil,” says Samuel Engel, who leads the Aviation Practice at consulting firm ICF international. It’s not an accident that airlines overbook their flights, and it boils down to one simple reason: “Some passengers don’t show up.” In fact, some passengers are almost always not going to show up. “So if you know that’s going to be the case, you’re setting yourself up for flying with empty seats and wasting them,” says Engel. But wait, if people don’t show up, aren't the airlines then just selling the same seat twice and making gobs of money off of the poor jerks who are left behind when people actually do all show up? No, says Engel, because the airlines “don’t get revenue for a seat that goes empty.” It’s true someone has paid for that seat, but in most cases that person will end up being given a free flight by the airline to accommodate them if they were just running late, for example. “Some passengers will just not show up because they didn’t want to take the trip, but more cases than not, they arrived at the airport 15 minutes late 'cause there was traffic and they missed their flight and the airline is going to accommodate them on another flight.”
this will fix everything. stop accomodating people that are tardy. frick em
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:58 pm to Chicken
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Why do they do it?
“Contrary to what popular perception may be, airlines are not evil,” says Samuel Engel, who leads the Aviation Practice at consulting firm ICF international. It’s not an accident that airlines overbook their flights, and it boils down to one simple reason: “Some passengers don’t show up.”
Exactly- why sell one seat with one passenger when you can sell two for the same price and not have to provide a second seat?
All about that $$$.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:58 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Don't like it/them? Fly someone rlse, and I suspect people will.
Every domestic carrier had an overbooking situation in 2016.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
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If it's as rare as Golfer leads us to believe it won't cost them much money.
You're slightly confused here. What's rare is that there aren't enough seats to seat everyone who actually shows up, including the extras. But plenty of people don't show up, probably happens every flight. People who die the day before, that sort of thing. So they sell a few extra seats and that's good money.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 1:59 pm to Golfer
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Stopping at $800 was very short-sighted
Very much so.
A few hundred more dollars and a passenger happily stays behind instead of a passenger getting assaulted to accommodate a United employee or their companion.
It's a lot cheaper to cough up a few hundred more to get a volunteer or book their employees on another airline than to do what they did.
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:00 pm to Golfer
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Every domestic carrier had an overbooking situation in 2016.
How many knocked their passengers unconscious and dragged them off the plane after overbooking?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:02 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:he knocked himself out, it appears...but how would you get a passenger to leave your plane who refuses to leave? ie, refuses police orders to leave...
How many knocked their passengers unconscious and dragged them off the plane after overbooking?
Posted on 4/10/17 at 2:02 pm to Chicken
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name them all...all 12+ bad decisions...
quote:is very different from
there are probably about a dozen or so bad decisions made by United before we even get to the doctor.
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there are exactly a dozen bad decisions made by United before we even get to the doctor.
I just named 3 very obvious mistakes by United without getting into the concussion. It isn't a stretch to say there were more but i'm just dealing with a 20 second film clip.
United made several mistakes before we even get to the doctor.
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