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re: Video of Sandra Bland (who went on to commit suicide) arrest released

Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:16 am to
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:16 am to
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Have you ever actually seen a PC hearing in court? It usually goes something like,

"I knew this area to be a high crime/drug use area."

"I observed the car to be breaking a traffic law."

"Upon approaching the car, I noticed the driver was nervous and fidgeting in response to my questions."

"I smelled marijuana on the air inside the car."

"Therefore I believed them to have illegal drugs."

That is PC in a few simple answers to a prosecutor's direct examination.



Exactly my point. An LEO can come up with just about any reason to search a car, which is the problem.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:18 am to
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Sometimes cops have to provoke citizens to judge how dangerous they are, this was a text book case.


I agree somewhat, but they shouldn't do it all the time and should have some standards as to what % of stops can use this tactic. It keeps us all safer. The ends justify the means IMO.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:19 am to
Agreed that there may be a general problem there, but talking about existing law and this case.... What the officer did is legal. Maybe not correct but legal.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:22 am to
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Sometimes cops have to provoke citizens to judge how dangerous they are, this was a text book case.


I agree somewhat,


In all seriousness, no, you really shouldn't agree with that.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:27 am to
Just watched the video, let me get this straight......

"Ma'm I'm writing you a warning ticket for not signalling a lane change."

"Why are you mad?"

"Please put out that cigarette, if you would."

"Now you need to get out the car."

"Now you are under arrest."

Cop needs Discipline. This is in no way acceptable. If it is legal, we need to re-examine legality.

Cop is not responsible for her murder, that is on her.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:31 am to
And He was just going to give her a warning.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 10:33 am
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:33 am to
that's what he says. who knows if that's even true. based on the way he acted, and then then the fact he tried to cover up some of it, i tend to not believe him.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:34 am to
He showed her the warning
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:36 am to
Damn bro. You missed a great opportunity. Ugh
Posted by PTBob
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:38 am to
a lot of times the "warning" and the "ticket" are the same piece of paper just a different box checked.

plus she isn't exactly present to let us know what she was shown at all.
Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:38 am to
Trying to reel it back a bit. But thanks for the setup.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 10:55 am to
I have no reason to doubt that he was giving her a warning.
Posted by djangochained
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:09 am to
when did becoming a cop become an accomplishment?

Cops are typically poors with no education and shitty better than thou attitudes

frick THEM
Posted by Royal
God's Country
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:10 am to
She'd likely avoided arrest if she would have simply complied with the officer's requests. I've said it before, and I will say it again: Cops are, for the most part, douche bags who act like they are above everyone else. Even so, how dumb do you have to be to fight with a guy that has a gun and a badge? Just listen to them and you will most likely be on your way,....


ETA: not all law enforcement is as I described above-just the ones that we are most likely to deal with..
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 11:12 am
Posted by Mikes My Tiger
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:39 am to
OP must work for the police station's PR department.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:44 am to
quote:

how dumb do you have to be to fight with a guy that has a gun and a badge
video cameras on police officers will expose just had bad some of the people are that they deal with...this woman included.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:47 am to
No reason for this to escalate as it did. Really, had to start yelling at her the way he did? It didn't have to go that far.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 11:53 am to
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No reason for this to escalate as it did. Really, had to start yelling at her the way he did? It didn't have to go that far.


Black women have the worst attitudes though.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88468 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:09 pm to
She could have put out the cig, gotten out of the car, used her turn signal, etc. more importantly, she killed herself.

Murder investigation?

Please.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7105 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:14 pm to
the fact that he was in the car trying to fabricate a story gives you no doubt that he was being truthful during the arrest?


are you sure about that, bud?
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