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Posted on 7/22/15 at 12:16 pm to ell_13
oh, he is ABSOLUTELY not responsible for her murder. I agree.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:06 pm to LSUTANGERINE
I saw that link and it is terrible. I think I even commented in that thread that the police officer was reckless and should be fired and prosecuted.
That video is an entirely different example than this smart arse cig lady.
That video is an entirely different example than this smart arse cig lady.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:38 pm to SECdragonmaster
From a citizen poster over
at Huff Po:
There are numerous problems here:
1. Officer makes an illegal U-turn under non-emergency conditions.
2. Officer approaches her car from behind at a relatively high rate of speed which, as she alluded to, caused her to think she needed to get out of his way.
3. Officer attempts to require the citizen to stop smoking when smoking is in fact lawful and her right.
4. Officer then uses her refusal to stop smoking as a pretext for forcing her to exit her vehicle.
5. Officer threatens her with his taser violating court orders from the 9th Circuit court prohibiting such use of tasers.
5a. Officer points his taser at her head violating safety practices as recommended by Taser International and training from his department.
6. Officer fails numerous times to inform the citizen why she is under arrest.
7. Officer loses control of the situation as is exhibited by his lack of voice control.
8. Officer turned his back on the "suspect."
9. Officer drags the victim out of view of the camera defeating the purpose of the camera - to record police interaction with the public.
10. Officer prevents victim from using her cell phone. If she intended to call 9-1-1 that is a crime.
At this point the citizen has violated no laws and is being muscled around by a cop with a baditutde. This cop "eyed" her as a black motorist from the start and profiled her.
The citizen did nothing wrong. The cop pushed buttons and forced the situation down hill. They are experts at this and do it every day.
As the incident continues the cop retorts to the citizen's remarks in a manner that can only fuel the fire and further degrade the situation.
11. At about the 14:20 mark it seems a different citizen happens upon the scene and the officer tells them they need to leave in violation of that citizen's first amendment rights.
Around the 14:50 mark the cop tells her she is going to jail for resisting arrest. Resisting arrest is always a charge added on. It is never the main charge that gets the ball rolling.
What we have here is racial profiling followed by violations of the citizen's fourth and first amendment rights culminating in a false arrest. She is guilty only of contempt of cop which is not a crime.
12. The video starts looping but the sound track continues on. THE VIDEO HAS BEEN EDITED!
This entire scene is the fault of the cop and he has in fact been admonished by his department and I believe reassigned.
at Huff Po:
There are numerous problems here:
1. Officer makes an illegal U-turn under non-emergency conditions.
2. Officer approaches her car from behind at a relatively high rate of speed which, as she alluded to, caused her to think she needed to get out of his way.
3. Officer attempts to require the citizen to stop smoking when smoking is in fact lawful and her right.
4. Officer then uses her refusal to stop smoking as a pretext for forcing her to exit her vehicle.
5. Officer threatens her with his taser violating court orders from the 9th Circuit court prohibiting such use of tasers.
5a. Officer points his taser at her head violating safety practices as recommended by Taser International and training from his department.
6. Officer fails numerous times to inform the citizen why she is under arrest.
7. Officer loses control of the situation as is exhibited by his lack of voice control.
8. Officer turned his back on the "suspect."
9. Officer drags the victim out of view of the camera defeating the purpose of the camera - to record police interaction with the public.
10. Officer prevents victim from using her cell phone. If she intended to call 9-1-1 that is a crime.
At this point the citizen has violated no laws and is being muscled around by a cop with a baditutde. This cop "eyed" her as a black motorist from the start and profiled her.
The citizen did nothing wrong. The cop pushed buttons and forced the situation down hill. They are experts at this and do it every day.
As the incident continues the cop retorts to the citizen's remarks in a manner that can only fuel the fire and further degrade the situation.
11. At about the 14:20 mark it seems a different citizen happens upon the scene and the officer tells them they need to leave in violation of that citizen's first amendment rights.
Around the 14:50 mark the cop tells her she is going to jail for resisting arrest. Resisting arrest is always a charge added on. It is never the main charge that gets the ball rolling.
What we have here is racial profiling followed by violations of the citizen's fourth and first amendment rights culminating in a false arrest. She is guilty only of contempt of cop which is not a crime.
12. The video starts looping but the sound track continues on. THE VIDEO HAS BEEN EDITED!
This entire scene is the fault of the cop and he has in fact been admonished by his department and I believe reassigned.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 1:57 pm to Flame Salamander
Damn SJW's are hard at work!
Huh? Don't think that police officers have to be in an "emergency" situation to do a u-turn. If she did run a stop sign, he should be able to do a u-turn if it's safe. And why does this person think the u-turn is illegal in the first place?
If you watch the video, that's a bit of an exaggeration. She still may have moved over to get out of his way, but this makes it sound like he floored it to catch up to her, but she was stopped at a stop light and he casually drove up to her.
"Attempts to require." You mean "asks"?
She actually never refused. Just asked "why?"
quote:
1. Officer makes an illegal U-turn under non-emergency conditions.
Huh? Don't think that police officers have to be in an "emergency" situation to do a u-turn. If she did run a stop sign, he should be able to do a u-turn if it's safe. And why does this person think the u-turn is illegal in the first place?
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2. Officer approaches her car from behind at a relatively high rate of speed which, as she alluded to, caused her to think she needed to get out of his way.
If you watch the video, that's a bit of an exaggeration. She still may have moved over to get out of his way, but this makes it sound like he floored it to catch up to her, but she was stopped at a stop light and he casually drove up to her.
quote:
Officer attempts to require the citizen to stop smoking when smoking is in fact lawful and her right.
"Attempts to require." You mean "asks"?
quote:
4. Officer then uses her refusal to stop smoking as a pretext for forcing her to exit her vehicle.
She actually never refused. Just asked "why?"
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:22 pm to StickD
quote:
The trooper said in the arrest affidavit that Bland was "swinging her elbows at me and then kicked my right leg in the shin. I had a pain in my right leg and suffered small cuts on my right hand." Encinia, who claimed Bland was "combative and uncooperative," arrested her on a charge of assaulting a public servant.
quote:
From that link, here is why she was arrested.
quote:
So in your opinion, the arrest was unwarranted?
Posted on 7/22/15 at 2:55 pm to CorporateTiger
quote:
So your idea is that if the cop doesn't immediately respond telling you what the arrest is for then it is illegal?
The phrase "Immediately respond" is getting a lot of play here. He did not immediately respond. He did not respond after being asked again and again. He did not respond after being asked 5-10 times.
He kicked her arse for a while, then continued to not respond as he was asked a whole lot more times. I am not aware of him ever answering it except when he got her to jail and had had time to think something up.
Maybe you may want to stop using the phrase "Immediately respond". It is disingenuous and misleading.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 3:55 pm to CorporateTiger
I see your point and agree he profiled immediately, which is ok and needed in law enforcement, but the video showed me it was taken too far and I honestly would hope a judge would think the same...maybe not. I'm not a lawyer
Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:09 pm to Flame Salamander
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This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:11 pm to Negative Nomad
quote:
We need a good cleansing to get everyone's mind right.
this
Posted on 7/22/15 at 4:37 pm to BoxmanTiger
quote:
I see your point and agree he profiled immediately
He did not profile her. Watch the start of the video where he has the maroon car pulled over. When he lets the maroon car go it turns left. She came from the left and blew through the stop sign.
He then made his U turn and the rest is history.
Posted on 7/22/15 at 7:53 pm to TigerHam85
Family gonna get paid even a bigger amount now.
So they leave her unchecked for 90 minutes with a plastic garbage bag in the cell.
ANd now there is this. Crow is now served for those who said the officer did nothing wrong.
LINK
quote:
A woman whose death in a Texas jail has raised suspicions about the official conclusion that she hanged herself told a guard during the booking process that she had tried to kill herself in the past, the sheriff said Wednesday.
So they leave her unchecked for 90 minutes with a plastic garbage bag in the cell.
ANd now there is this. Crow is now served for those who said the officer did nothing wrong.
quote:
The trooper, who has been on the force for just over a year, has been placed on administrative leave for violating unspecified police procedures and the Department of Public Safety's courtesy policy. The agency would not address questions about whether the trooper acted appropriately by drawing his stun gun or trying to pull Bland out of the vehicle.
LINK
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:05 pm to LSUTANGERINE
You forgot to mention the article said her family had no evidence of a suicide attempt or any type of depression....
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:09 pm to Saltwatersoul04
quote:
You forgot to mention the article said her family had no evidence of a suicide attempt or any type of depression....
First, their family is going for the murder angle. If they want money they need to drop that line. It was suicide.
How many times have you heard family and friends talk about a suicide victim, saying they had no signs or had no idea.
SHe is an adult. Not everyone who attempts suicide tells their mom and pop. Look, even the sheriff said she told them about a previous suicide attempt during booking. Do you think the sheriff is going to lie about that given the circumstances? Standard protocol when one says that is suicide precautions or at least have mental health do an eval to determine her placement in the jail. NOne of that was done. The family is gonna get paid big time for their negligence.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:12 pm to LSUTANGERINE
So you're saying that the family is possibly lying to get more money?
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:13 pm to Saltwatersoul04
quote:
So you're saying that the family is possibly lying to get more money?
No, in my opinion, they want to assign blame for her death on someone other than their daughter who committed suicide
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:14 pm to TigerHam85
Dr drew talking about it now
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:16 pm to Makinbacon
quote:
Cnn talking about it now
ABout what? That she told them she had a prior suicide attempt at booking? This is bad for those in charge at the jail.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:16 pm to LSUTANGERINE
HLN
Dr drew
Dr drew
Posted on 7/22/15 at 8:17 pm to LSUTANGERINE
But you said if they want more money they "need to drop that line." Sorry if I'm mistaken but that's how that reads to me.
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