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re: Vice Video: The New Wave of American Masculinity

Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:38 am to
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:38 am to
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a radical men's group hosting a slumber party in the woods

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:38 am to
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to be fair


True. Like I said, this process has been going on for a long time. We're just seeing it reach a tipping point now.

But it's more than just style of clothing. It goes deeper than that. The clothing is just the outer expression of the mindset that's been driven into kids for years. The traditional lines between males and females have been under attack for a long time and now they're all but gone. And as those lines disappear, so does the traditional concept of being a man.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:39 am to
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the HBO show isn't really that great. their youtube videos are much better and more interesting

you can hit like 90% of the HBO show as follows:

1. climate change is here and will kill us; we need new energy sources
2. third world countries are terrible and do terrible things. here's one way that you haven't seen them be terrible!

The episode where Isobel Yeung interviewed an Afghran MP was one of the more uncomfortable episodes I've seen on VICE on HBO LINK
Posted by Mo Jeaux
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:40 am to
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80s hair metal


But was pretty masculine in a lot of ways. So masculine that they were comfortable with dressing in an overtly feminine manner.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:41 am to
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The traditional lines between males and females have been under attack for a long time and now they're all but gone.

i don't disagree

i'm just saying millenials were born after this shift and can't be blamed for growing up in that society

they are the product of the people you should blame
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:41 am to
Vice was lame last year - too many gross/depressing stories in 3rd world countries.

Hope they get back to things that I enjoy. Nothing better than a Friday night workout, start a bottle of red wine, sex with the GF, some OG Kush, "Real time with Bill Maher" and "Vice", and then Thai delivery and crash.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 9:42 am
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:41 am to
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the alt-right did produce "ayy lmao" (i discovered it yesterday), which is cracking me up
ayy lmao has been around for years and wasn't produced by the alt-right

LINK

edit: also the cuck/beta thing also pre-dates the alt-right's use of the terms.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 9:42 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:41 am to
I think I'm pretty masculine
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:41 am to
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But was pretty masculine in a lot of ways. So masculine that they were comfortable with dressing in an overtly feminine manner.


It was almost like a competition. "Hey watch how much I can look like a woman and still bang more chicks than you!"
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:42 am to
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I'm at work and can't watch the video right now but how is this not camping?


Gay men (NTTAWWT) don't go "camping" - apparently they have slumber parties in the woods.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:42 am to
sorry

proliferated
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:42 am to
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i don't disagree

i'm just saying millenials were born after this shift and can't be blamed for growing up in that society

they are the product of the people you should blame


The main blame should go to
1. Liberal progressives (starting in the 60's)
2. Feminist
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:43 am to
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2. Feminist

radical feminists, primarily 3rd wavers

1st wave feminism was fine and proper, imho
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:43 am to
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. Gavin meets with a host of these men,


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a troupe of stay-at-home-dads


quote:

a radical men's group hosting a slumber party in the woods


Well i guess they failed with determining the subject base to question.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:44 am to
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It was almost like a competition. "Hey watch how much I can look like a woman and still bang more chicks than you!


I'd dare to say that bands like Def Leppard and Motley Crue in the 80's bedded women on a scale not seen since the days of the Mongols.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:44 am to
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The traditional lines between males and females have been under attack for a long time and now they're all but gone.


oh fricks sake

don't act like outliers in society make up the entire population

the average American male is still your typical "masculine" male
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:46 am to
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quote:
a radical men's group hosting a slumber party in the woods


I'm at work and can't watch the video right now but how is this not camping?


They paint their nails?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:46 am to
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don't act like outliers in society make up the entire population

well data shows that our society is going from a masculine or even neutral society to a feminized one. look at things like women in college, graduating college, etc

i think graduation comparisons are like 60-40 these days

that is more than just "outliers"
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:48 am to
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i think graduation comparisons are like 60-40 these days

that is more than just "outliers"


I was more talking about men having outdoor slumber parties and whatnot

I don't think more women graduating college is demasculating men
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/10/16 at 9:48 am to
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oh fricks sake

don't act like outliers in society make up the entire population

the average American male is still your typical "masculine" male


Some are. But they're becoming less and less. And I'm not just talking about the hipsters. There's a growing trend with young 20somethings thinking and acting more like a 15 yr old than a 25 yr old. It's like they're stuck in some sort of Peter Pan fantasy where they're afraid to grow up.
This post was edited on 5/10/16 at 9:50 am
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