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re: Vanessa Bryant files wrongful death suit against helicopter owner

Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:33 pm to
I don't understand the anger here. If the guy was negligent, and it resulted in death, the company should be sued out of existence. As far as him being personally named, I can't imagine that lasts long. It's my understanding and experience that most employees are covered by their employers. Maybe he was a contractor?
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40232 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:33 pm to
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Some of y'all don't understand how insurance works
We post on the OT, we dont know how a lot of things work.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:33 pm to
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 if he was pressured by passengers to fly anyway.


You get paid the big bucks to ignore the passengers and do what's safe. Negligence either way.
Posted by TiggerB8t
Member since Oct 2013
693 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:34 pm to
There is much that could be speculated about this tragedy, including the possibility that Kobe used his star-status and clout (and maybe even some extra cash payable to the pilot) to press for attempting the flight in foggy conditions - especially if the operator was a long-time pilot/operator for Kobe over the years who "aimed to please" Kobe.

It's ultimately up to the pilot to say "no", but not impossible to think that Kobe pressed for them to make an attempt to get there quickly since it was his daughter's game and Kobe was the sponsor for the event. Rash decisions are sometimes made by smart and wealthy individuals that turn out badly -sad and unfortunate for all the victims and their families.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64389 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:34 pm to
No shite. There was IFR flying conditions and a VFR rated pilot. I hate suits like this but hell, if he'd had been IFR rated the crash wouldn't have happened
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:35 pm to
He was IFR rated. The company could only have VFR flights.

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Ara Zobayan was licensed to fly using instruments alone, but the operating certificate by the Federal Aviation Administration limited Island Express Helicopters’ pilots to fly only under visual flight rules, or VFR, the New York Times reported, citing three sources familiar with the firm’s operations.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 1:40 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:38 pm to
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Some of y'all don't understand how insurance works



I really might not in this case. Wouldn't the insurance company be the ones suing and not the Bryants?

For instance, in car wrecks, the insurance companies usually sue the driver or the other insurance company for money.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3541 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:41 pm to
So?

Doesn't matter if Kobe got on his knees and offered the pilot a BJ. The pilot is the only one paid to make decisions when it comes to flying the company helicopter.
Posted by Lithium
Member since Dec 2004
64389 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:41 pm to
well there's the lawsuit because it was IFR
Posted by KirkLazarus
Member since Aug 2017
3574 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:42 pm to
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Greedy
Like he crashed on purpose.
I’m sure she’ll find her another NBA BBC


Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
11003 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:43 pm to
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Sad all around. We’ll never know what really went down. Whether or not the pilot made a bad error in judgement or if he was pressured by passengers to fly anyway.



What time did kids need to be at game? I don’t know what rules are with cell phones and helicopters, but if ok and considering how low they were flying has there been any evidence of texts or social media posts by any of the passengers showing whether passengers including Kobe were getting frustrated with delays (especially when circling near the zoo waiting for clearance).

I haven’t read anything about passengers being in a big rush, and that just makes pilot booking it in fog while following the curving 101 through higher ground on both sides of road that peaked in places in the cloud cover even harder to understand. Even if pressured pilot has to be safe, but if no added pressure it just seems like an area in those conditions where if you decide to continue you would be going on the slow side to increase reaction time.
This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:44 pm to
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well there's the lawsuit because it was IFR

Yep. Company should have never given the go ahead for the flight. Sad situation that could have been prevented by simply following rules.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:46 pm to
Shes has to so she can get ahead of the suits coming against Kobe's estate.
I'm sure he had the copter owned by a different llc, but he'll still be sued
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59349 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:46 pm to
typical, my post in this thread was deleted but shite like this is allowed to stay.

quote:

Greedy
Like he crashed on purpose.
I’m sure she’ll find her another NBA BBC


quote:

Totally classless bitch.


TD Admins, always striving for consistency

This post was edited on 2/24/20 at 1:48 pm
Posted by boudinman
Member since Nov 2019
6101 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:48 pm to
The company files for bankruptcy protection, and never pays a dime.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
41519 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:50 pm to
That's a bad look but very typical
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86415 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:51 pm to
Louisiana has specific classes of people who have standing to bring a suit for wrongful death. It may be that Vanessa and the descendants are the only group who can bring suit. I’d imagine any life insurance company will force them to bring suit and assign any rights or just pay and subrogate back against third-party recovery.

She may have been a trashy dancer who got her sugar daddy, but I’m guessing this suit has more to do with complex estate planning than culcha
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
8430 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:52 pm to
Also saw the pilot had a 2015 FAA violation. That’ll be used in the suit.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
76781 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:52 pm to
how much money someone has or does not have shouldn't change anything
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
86415 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 1:53 pm to
I think the negligence is pretty much a given. Probably filed suit to see if there are any excess carriers
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