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re: Vaccinations for kids? Related to Autism?
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:26 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:26 pm to dgnx6
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You guys are getting mad at the wrong person. I've never lied to you or your kids.
Im just telling you what the post covid medicine says.
And we're here talking about the regular schedule of non-COVID vaccines that people have been getting for decades.
MMR vaccines have been in use since the 60s, so we have close to 70 years of data on them.
Some form of Tetanus, Pertussis, and Diphtheria vaccines have been around since the 40s, so we're getting close to 100 years of data on them.
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Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:29 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I get folks issues with COVID shots and that's fine. But acting like that makes all vaccines useless is fricking stupid.
You're probably right, but aren't the same people that govern day to day vaccines, the same folks that governed covid vaccines? The same FDA that floats people between FDA Commissioner/staff and big pharma board rooms?
It just seems silly to so easily excuse their lack of judgment on one issue, and yet assume that they are so perfect in every other issue. Seems worth a look anyhow.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:31 pm to CatfishJohn
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Eh jury is still out on that
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Eh no it's not
yeah it is
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:31 pm to Grassy1
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You're probably right, but aren't the same people that govern day to day vaccines, the same folks that governed covid vaccines? The same FDA that floats people between FDA Commissioner/staff and big pharma board rooms?
At this point multiple countries world-wide utilize MMR and Tdap and have for several decades. They've been extensively researched world wide. This isn't exclusive to American organizations.
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It just seems silly to so easily excuse their lack of judgment on one issue, and yet assume that they are so perfect in every other issue. Seems worth a look anyhow.
I don't have a problem saying we've had those vaccines long enough to say if they were causing Autism (or other significant issues) consistently we'd have the data to back it up at this point.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:38 pm to Grassy1
There are instances of non-vaxxed kids and vaxxed kids with autism. It's not the cause IMO.
My theory is it is genetic and environmental. It's a gene that can get flipped somehow. My money is on all the chemicals and crap in the water and food. That's not a conspiracy theory either.
My theory is it is genetic and environmental. It's a gene that can get flipped somehow. My money is on all the chemicals and crap in the water and food. That's not a conspiracy theory either.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:39 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I don't have a problem saying we've had those vaccines long enough to say if they were causing Autism (or other significant issues) consistently we'd have the data to back it up at this point.
Not only that, but the research that first suggested the association between the MMR vaccine and autism was retracted, the author lost his license and has become a pariah. It wasn't just false. It was fraudulent. He stood to gain market share from the alternative vaccines he had a financial interest in if the MMR vaccine was discredited.
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:40 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Something is increasing Autism. Could be vaccines, could be the microplastics in literally everything we eat and drink, could be 5G.
more people are DIAGNOSED with autism. we don't know if the amount of people with what we currently diagnose as autism was less frequent in the past.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:48 pm to saderade
Yea, no link to Covid vaccine and blot clots either…..??
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:52 pm to Grassy1
Vaccines cause autism. Just ask the tablet computer I give to my 2-year-old any time he wants to interact with other people.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:52 pm to Kolbysfan
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Yea, no link to Covid vaccine and blot clots either…..??
I truly don't know how some of you get yourselves dressed in the morning.
We are not talking about COVID shots. Your brain is fried with politics.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:54 pm to Grassy1
maybe their mothers downed a lot of Tylenol during pregnancy.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:55 pm to Grassy1
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the number of required vaccinations have increased
None of them are “required”.
That said, my kids were vaccinated. Not the covid one though.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:56 pm to Corinthians420
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more people are DIAGNOSED with autism. we don't know if the amount of people with what we currently diagnose as autism was less frequent in the past.
I personally know 4 people (ages 4-23) with autism, either extended family or children of close friends. Three of which will be incapable of ever living on their own, hopefully the 4 year old will improve. These are not simply "diagnosis."
ETA: I just recalled another, so 5 in my circle of friends/family.
As I stated in my OP, I'm not attempting to argue that vaccines are THE cause, and obviously, not the sole cause of autism.
I'm simply suggesting that people anticipating having children in the near future, do enough research prior to making the decision to let a nurse stick a bundle of vaccinations into your newborn responsibility.
If I were in that position, I would simply explore the likely consequences of not having them vaccinated.
If the realities of covid mandates don't make you at least question our governmental medical leadership, I doubt much will. And as you recall, our local medical leadership was largely in forced into bed with big pharma as well. (I know my docs were.)
This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 1/23/24 at 2:58 pm to jcaz
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There are instances of non-vaxxed kids and vaxxed kids with autism. It's not the cause IMO.
My theory is it is genetic and environmental. It's a gene that can get flipped somehow. My money is on all the chemicals and crap in the water and food. That's not a conspiracy theory either.
How about all the soccer moms who feed McDonald's chicken nuggets and Big Macs and Pizza and hot dogs a few times a week?
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:00 pm to BeachDude022
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Genetics cause autism
Name the gene.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:01 pm to ChenierauTigre
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How about all the soccer moms who feed McDonald's chicken nuggets and Big Macs and Pizza and hot dogs a few times a week?
They'll have unhealthy kids, but I don't think they'll develop Autism from eating that stuff.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:04 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Something is increasing Autism. Could be vaccines, could be the microplastics in literally everything we eat and drink, could be 5G.
Or, it could be the ever-widening and evolving "spectrum".
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:07 pm to Grassy1
Much research and books on the topic but one interesting one to consider - The Vaccine Friendly Plan by Dr. Paul Thomas, M.D.
Pediatrician who breaks down all vaccines in the current CDC and others.. makes interesting points for and against certain ones at certain times which led to his recommended vaccine plan.
Not without controversy ofcourse from the AMA and such (they've revoked his medical license as of 2023) but still worth the read nonetheless. It covers other pregnancy and infant/childhood topics but boasts his autism and other childhood illness rates (that are reported as increasing in our society) as much lower in his practice.
Reiterates the importance and validity of ones mentioned here (Tdap, Hib, Prevnar, MMR) and goes against the current CDC plan in relation to age given and volume.
Pediatrician who breaks down all vaccines in the current CDC and others.. makes interesting points for and against certain ones at certain times which led to his recommended vaccine plan.
Not without controversy ofcourse from the AMA and such (they've revoked his medical license as of 2023) but still worth the read nonetheless. It covers other pregnancy and infant/childhood topics but boasts his autism and other childhood illness rates (that are reported as increasing in our society) as much lower in his practice.
Reiterates the importance and validity of ones mentioned here (Tdap, Hib, Prevnar, MMR) and goes against the current CDC plan in relation to age given and volume.
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:07 pm to AlextheBodacious
Posted on 1/23/24 at 3:10 pm to saderade
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There has been a large number of studies on millions of children all over the world on this very topic and there is no evidence for a link between vaccines and autism.
Link some of them then. Seriously. RFKjr claims that there are no studies and/or clinical trials for vaccines.
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