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re: USW strike...** POSSIBLE END IN SIGHT **
Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:49 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:49 pm to fightin tigers
I would bet it is still another few weeks before this gets resolved. I will guess March 15th.
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Posted on 2/23/15 at 6:55 pm to MikeD
Ides of March, eh.
I could see it going that long.
I could see it going that long.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 8:19 pm to fightin tigers
Y tu Brute? This is why contractors get vacation days. Not to spend time with your family but to wait out bullshite.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:01 pm to TigeRoots
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n a letter to employees, Shell said the major sticking point in the talks was the USW's push to shift daily maintenance work from non-union contractors to union members.
The company said it offered a 6.5 percent increase in pay to the USW over the three years of the agreement.
Sign me up. Let's go to work
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:05 pm to TigeRoots
It just blows my mind that neither party is in a hurry to resolve this as quick as possible. Meanwhile, all of us that are affected, are either locked inside the razor wire or picketing on the outside. Ridiculous....
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:13 pm to LaplassTiger
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Sign me up. Let's go to work
Yeah they've already agreed upon the 6.5%. 2, 2.5, 2% for the next 3 years. That ain't shite for a cost of living raise. 3% is the norm.
This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:14 pm to GS3
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It just blows my mind that neither party is in a hurry to resolve this as quick as possible. Meanwhile, all of us that are affected, are either locked inside the razor wire or picketing on the outside. Ridiculous....
I agree. They routinely take 3 days, a week, whatever off from negotiations. bullshite.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:19 pm to fightin tigers
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fightin tigers
Laugh all you want. I've worked in P&T, Norco, Deer Park, and now Pipelines. The training and qualifications are being taken seriously.
There isn't enough people qualified and it's one of the main reasons contractors are slowly being brought back versus business as usual.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:25 pm to brass2mouth
Oh I thought they were all Union
Posted on 2/23/15 at 9:43 pm to GS3
The union is ready to talk available 24/7. The company is dragging there feet. May be next week before the company comes to the table.
This post was edited on 2/23/15 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 2/23/15 at 10:57 pm to gmshooter
That sounds good and everything, but if there not willing to budge on contract labor I don't think we'll be returning anytime soon. It's not negotiating if you just cut someone's leg off every time u don't get your way.
Posted on 2/23/15 at 11:12 pm to fightin tigers
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He probably should have had some better contingency plans.
I'm not saying be able to live inevitably, but if he can't hold over for a few months until finding a new job then he really can only blame himself.
I'm sure a battle with cancer already dips into whatever savings you have with normal insurance and like I said, I'd cross that line first chance I got and wouldn't think twice.
My wife/kid's life is more important to me than whether or not the plant hires 10 electricians or contracts out 15 of them.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:37 am to brass2mouth
Still holding out on negotiating?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 5:45 am to brass2mouth
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'm sure a battle with cancer already dips into whatever savings you have with normal insurance and like I said, I'd cross that line first chance I got and wouldn't think twice.
No doubt, you are talking about an extremely small number of people in this situation.
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My wife/kid's life is more important to me than whether or not the plant hires 10 electricians or contracts out 15 of them.
Would you vote for decertification right now?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 6:45 am to Jollyroger
I hear you. The company said they would talk about more shop jobs the last 2 contracts. They did talk about it 1 meeting per contract and that was it and they never wanted to meet again. This is why this is a sticking point. We have some skilled contractors that we could bring on board for these jobs.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 6:54 am to TigeRoots
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3% is the norm.
True. My raises over the past 12 years with Shell have been at or over 3% each year. That 2% offer was low balling.
Posted on 2/24/15 at 6:55 am to gmshooter
Please excuse the naïveté of my question, but why shouldn't plant owners be able to hire whatever mix of union/non Union they desire at whatever time they desire?
Posted on 2/24/15 at 7:03 am to TigeRoots
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Yeah they've already agreed upon the 6.5%. 2, 2.5, 2% for the next 3 years. That ain't shite for a cost of living raise. 3% is the norm.
Inflation is at 1.5% right now
Posted on 2/24/15 at 8:02 am to man in the stadium
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Please excuse the naïveté of my question, but why shouldn't plant owners be able to hire whatever mix of union/non Union they desire at whatever time they desire?
They can. There is no rule requiring anyone to be in the union.
The employees are the ones who want the union, not the company.
The union could be stronger, but goverments and policies have really fricked up union power in the the last few decades. A union member should never have to go to HR with the company they work for. All issues should be handled in house, but there is no way that can happen in today's world.
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