re: U.S. Police killed 984 in 2015 - U.K. Police killed 3

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NYPD shoots and kills less than the rest of the US

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Gotta a link for who's the best at choking people to death?

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You do know that EVERY 1st world country had slaves right

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How many imported into their mainland a large minority of a different skin color from a primitive continent and then made them full citizens? How many did that and didn't suffer serious long-term pain from it?

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Don't commit crimes

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Been proven wrong time and time again. Law enforcement is self serving, you're responsible for protecting yourself.

Many innocent people are harmed by law enforcement

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European violence tends to be more ordered and systematic

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So much so that they give it numbers.

Well, we need to look at where these crimes are being committed. I'd imagine most of the black deaths are in ghettos in the south and Midwest in ecosystems whixh aren't healthy. The racialstuff isn't the issue. It's the noxious environments which are and black and white and Hispanic and Asian all have own examples. It just so happens that the Great Migration has ended up with more black ghettos.

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Every day in the U.S., an average of 289 people are shot. Eighty-six of them die: 30 are murdered, 53 kill themselves, two die accidentally, and one is shot in a police intervention, the Brady Campaign reports.

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This. We have more guns.

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It's hard to find data that is actually comparable because they seem to use different definitions and methods.

According to this site 1,163,146 violent crimes occurred nationwide in the US.

This site seems to use different time periods entirely that run from July to June in a given year. 2013/2014 reported 1.3 million. This is actually more in a smaller country which means much higher incidence actually. However like I said, I don't think this is reliable. Maybe if I spent a lot more time researching I could figure things out better from a raw data standpoint.

However we aren't the only ones who have thought of this, and there seems to be a few articles and links out there discussing this.

This quora page seems to break things down pretty nicely and claims that the above stats are unreliable as I suspected.

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While it becomes clear that certain types of offences are marginally higher in the UK than in the US (robbery and knife crime being more likely in the UK by an order of 1.1x and 1.27x respectively) a number of other, more serious offenses, are both marginally and substantially higher in the US.

Rape of a female is 1.02x more likely in the US, while theft of a vehicle is 1.29x more likely.

More disturbingly, burglary is significantly higher at 1.52x more likely to occur in the US.

However, it is at the considerably more, well, violent crimes that America really supersedes England and Wales into its own class.


In the United States, you are 6.9x more likely to be the victim of aggravated assault resulting in serious injury than in the UK.

You are 4.03x more likely to be murdered than in the UK.


And more staggeringly (though not surprising) you are 35.2x more likely to be shot dead in the Unites States than in the UK. [1]

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In 2010, the US murder rate appears to be 300% higher than the UK’s.


In the UK, the robbery rate was 15% higher than the US.


Given the FBI’s anachronistic definition of rape [females only], it is hard to compare, but the rate for females was about 8% higher in the US. [2]

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If this quora page is to be trusted then it would appear that the US has a good bit more violent crime in terms of rate than the UK in comparable statistics. For example I don't think that gun violence categories are fair comparisons. (ETA: Although on second thought this might really be to the heart of the issue. You are less likely to be killed by police in the UK because you are less likely to be a serious life threat because you probably don't have a gun. Either way the UK as a culture doesn't seem to be hugely less violent than us based on the other stats.) Total murder rate regardless of method is a fair comparison. However, the violent crime rate, while significantly higher in some categories, doesn't seem to be nearly as much higher as the incidence of police killing citizens.

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You are less likely to be killed by police in the UK because you are less likely to be a serious life threat because you probably don't have a gun. Either way the UK as a culture doesn't seem to be hugely less violent than us based on the other stats.) Total murder rate regardless of method is a fair comparison. However, the violent crime rate, while significantly higher in some categories, doesn't seem to be nearly as much higher as the incidence of police killing citizens.

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Great points, and great post.