- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: U.S. Police killed 984 in 2015 - U.K. Police killed 3
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:39 pm to Flame Salamander
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:39 pm to Flame Salamander
quote:
I don't think that you comprehended what I said.
I understood what you said just fine.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:40 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
hey also have some of the most restrictive gun laws in the US. At least here, fewer guns means fewer shootings.
You can extrapolate that as you will.
I am extrapolating and the answer is training and the will not to shoot as often.
NYC police are arguably the best trained municipal police in the US.
This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
It also helps when the "victim" is an armed felon.
And if they are not? What about 6 year old boys and 7 year old girls killed by rogue marshals and out of control swat teams?
All charges dismissed in the 7 year olds death btw. LINK
This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:41 pm to ThatMakesSense
quote:
Most dangerous job in the USA is President.
Must be why Obama is a crybaby. He's scared.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:41 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
And one death is too many.
I don't disagree.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:41 pm to HeavyCore
I have been to the UK. The USA is a better place to live even with the police shootings. 
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:45 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
And if they are not? What about 6 year old boys and 7 year old girls killed by rogue marshals and out of control swat teams?
All charges dismissed in the 7 year olds death btw.
Then that's tragic and anything that can be done to prevent future occurrences should be done. How many of the 984 deaths were 6 and 7 year olds?
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:49 pm to Barf
quote:
And one death is too many.
This is what it comes down to. I hate to see anyone killed, but how far do we handicap the police officers we expect to deal with violent criminals on a daily basis? I don't know what the answer is, but one should be sought. Preferably by more intelligent people that I've seen condemning police officers so far.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:51 pm to Barf
Then why are you arguing with me
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:52 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
And if they are not? What about 6 year old boys and 7 year old girls killed by rogue marshals and out of control swat teams?
All charges dismissed in the 7 year olds death btw. LINK
I understand that there are criminals in law enforcement as much as every other profession. That doesn't meant that 984 children were murdered by police last year. Every one of those cases is tragic, but acting like that is the majority of the numbers is ignorant at best, and malicious at worst.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:53 pm to Argonaut
quote:
Then that's tragic and anything that can be done to prevent future occurrences should be done. How many of the 984 deaths were 6 and 7 year olds?
Give me a few minutes and I will tell you.
The scary thing here is that the court didn't find any crime committed when a swat team entered the wrong apartment, and killed a 7 year old, then proceeded to dismiss the case. Cases like that shatter most hope I have for our judicial system.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:54 pm to Argonaut
quote:
This is what it comes down to. I hate to see anyone killed, but how far do we handicap the police officers we expect to deal with violent criminals on a daily basis? I don't know what the answer is, but one should be sought. Preferably by more intelligent people that I've seen condemning police officers so far.
I just fricking gave the answer...Training. Train the police not to shoot so readily.
NYPD shoots and kills less than the rest of the US
This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:57 pm to Flame Salamander
quote:
I just fricking gave the answer...Training. Train the police not to shoot so readily.
What sort of experience do you have with this? Much more intelligent people than you with more training and experience, and with access to the same information have come to different conclusions. Congratulations on knowing how to use Google, but if you don't know what you're talking about, don't be a dickhead.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:57 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:
If they are violent then I have no problem with them being shot. If a cop arrives to the situation, tells you to calm down and put your hands up, you should listen. If you disobey them then what happens after that is on you and not them
Yeah I get that. But cops might not shoot a guy who doesn't have a gun even if he's violent.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 12:59 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
I understand that there are criminals in law enforcement as much as every other profession.
Then perhaps you can explain the mystery as to why police are consistently under prosecuted compared to their civilian counterparts?
Would you agree that most prosecutors are reluctant to prosecute cops for self-promoting reasons (hurts ability to prosecute, thin blue line etc.)? Do you see a problem with this?
Posted on 1/6/16 at 1:01 pm to Barf
your screen name always makes me smile
Posted on 1/6/16 at 1:03 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
Would you agree that most prosecutors are reluctant to prosecute cops for self-promoting reasons (hurts ability to prosecute, thin blue line etc.)? Do you see a problem with this?
I won't speak to their intentions, because I don't know those any more than you do. Of course I see a problem with that, and I've said similar throughout. How many of those 984 were armed felons. My concern comes to a nearly complete stop on those cases.
Posted on 1/6/16 at 1:03 pm to biglego
quote:
Yeah I get that. But cops might not shoot a guy who doesn't have a gun even if he's violent.
I had a partner that had a butcher knife thrown at him and he didn't fire at the suspect. That took some restraint...
This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 1/6/16 at 1:06 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
Don't be a simpleton. He was perfectly fine on the topic. Maybe he just didn't buy your bullshite answer. Or, maybe he ignored it because you're a jackass.
NYPD is the best trained force in the US. They have to be because NYC is ground zero for terrorist threats in the US. Despite having all of the big city problems they manage to kill citizens at a much lower rate than elsewhere in the US. It is no coincidence that they can do this...it is the training of their force that does it.
Many of the killings that take place elsewhere across the US are unnecessary.
This post was edited on 1/6/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 1/6/16 at 1:06 pm to AHM21
quote:
I never said that. But lets not act like the majority of those 984 deaths were warranted or justified.
Do you really think that a MAJORITY of the 984 people killed by cops were unjustified?
I can understand people guessing that 1 in 20 or even 1 in 10 are questionable, but a majority? Holy shite.
Popular
Back to top



0



