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re: U.S. deports 95-year-old who was a Nazi concentration camp guard

Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42143 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:34 pm to
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So what’s the fricking point?

AIPAC
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24835 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:37 pm to
People are welcome to comb my life and punish me for any war crimes I have committed. I’ve already been caught and punished for any petty crimes (speeding etc)
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42143 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:57 pm to
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People are welcome to comb my life and punish me for any war crimes I have committed.

But Berger hasn't been convicted of committing any actual war crimes. An immigration hearing is not the same as a criminal trial. He was only found to have "assisted persecution", whatever the hell that actually means. Additionally, he isn't being tried by the Germans at all, whose Nazi collaboration laws make ours look lenient.

We have a long history of using these broad and vague immigration laws to push out people who other courts have found did nothing wrong. Even an Israeli court, yes an Israeli court, overturned the criminal conviction of John Demjanjuk, who was accused of being a Nazi prison guard, citing there was sufficient evidence to believe it was someone else. This is the same Demjanjuk who professed his innocence to an American immigration court but was denied any relief and was deported.

These immigration hearings are rubber stamps. And nobody wants to hear it, but these kangaroo proceedings exist only to appease the most powerful lobby in this country. It's a sad state of affairs when an alleged Nazi can get a fairer hearing in Israel than in the country he's lived in for decades.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14057 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 6:59 pm to
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These immigration hearings are rubber stamps. And nobody wants to hear it, but these kangaroo proceedings exist only to appease the most powerful lobby in this country.


If only people felt this way when it’s an asylum claim, and not just when it’s a 95 year old Nazi...
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78414 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:07 pm to
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An immigration hearing is not the same as a criminal trial. He was only found to have "assisted persecution",


Contributed to genocide would be the layman definition.

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Additionally, he isn't being tried by the Germans at all, whose Nazi collaboration laws make ours look lenient.


Correct, he is a citizen there and just an immigrant here.

These laws were written for immigrants, not for US citizens. US citizens would be held to a different level.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134648 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:22 pm to
Well said
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21221 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:44 pm to
Yet we open the borders to illegals that rape, kill, rob, and are a drain to our society.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44291 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:46 pm to
Auf Wiedersehen
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:02 pm to
In the grand scheme of things he served as a prison guard at the age of 20 in 1945, couldn't even legally drink a beer in the US today.

Lucked out in not being sent to the front, got to live in the US when times were good, and now being deported to Germany where he will receive the best social services in his final years of life.

I'm a little bit jealous.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79431 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:51 am to
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How many Americans have been tried for guarding concentration camps filled with Japanese Americans during WWII?


While Japanese concentration camps were bad, I am Pretty sure we didn’t work them to death or gas them.

Which is really the issue without the Nazi Concentration Camp.

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79431 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:58 am to
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These immigration hearings are rubber stamps. And nobody wants to hear it, but these kangaroo proceedings exist only to appease the most powerful lobby in this country. It's a sad state of affairs when an alleged Nazi can get a fairer hearing in Israel than in the country he's lived in for decades.


Immegration hearing vs a criminal trial.

Right now his sentence is being sent to Germany.

Not exactly hard time. Lower standard of proof.

Although the doesn’t seem to be denying being a Concentration Camp Guard.

Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:40 am to
Yeah and those millions ended up dead
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43145 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:53 am to
I guess if you defend Trump, you gotta defend a nazi.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
The Sticks
Member since Jun 2015
9725 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:22 am to
"I was just following orders".

Heard that one before.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24874 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 6:13 am to
Yeah, that’s the same. Idiot
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71153 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 6:50 am to
And to those of you down voting my previous post, can you please show me links to articles that describe how millions of Germans were engaged in active resistance against the regime inside Nazi Germany?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78414 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 6:58 am to
A lot of people hid Jews, a lot of Jews actively resisted (and fled countries).

I don't know if it amounts to millions per se, but that is just the one part of resistance when it came to WW2.
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53726 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 7:03 am to
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It isn't this dude's right to live in America.


Lol but we let Chinese and ex Soviets live here with no investigation, they killed 20x as many people as the Nazis, clown world
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17602 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 7:11 am to
I’m okay with removing all of the Nazis from America. You won’t convince me otherwise
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71958 posts
Posted on 2/21/21 at 7:26 am to
how many were active parts of the regime?

and if you know some of these people, you should report them, as the laws in which this guy was convicted just don't apply to former Trump administration.


signed AOC, Pelosi, Shumer and the rest.

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