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re: U.S. deports 95-year-old who was a Nazi concentration camp guard
Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:34 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:34 pm to fr33manator
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So what’s the fricking point?
AIPAC
Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:37 pm to fr33manator
People are welcome to comb my life and punish me for any war crimes I have committed. I’ve already been caught and punished for any petty crimes (speeding etc)
Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:57 pm to JumpingTheShark
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People are welcome to comb my life and punish me for any war crimes I have committed.
But Berger hasn't been convicted of committing any actual war crimes. An immigration hearing is not the same as a criminal trial. He was only found to have "assisted persecution", whatever the hell that actually means. Additionally, he isn't being tried by the Germans at all, whose Nazi collaboration laws make ours look lenient.
We have a long history of using these broad and vague immigration laws to push out people who other courts have found did nothing wrong. Even an Israeli court, yes an Israeli court, overturned the criminal conviction of John Demjanjuk, who was accused of being a Nazi prison guard, citing there was sufficient evidence to believe it was someone else. This is the same Demjanjuk who professed his innocence to an American immigration court but was denied any relief and was deported.
These immigration hearings are rubber stamps. And nobody wants to hear it, but these kangaroo proceedings exist only to appease the most powerful lobby in this country. It's a sad state of affairs when an alleged Nazi can get a fairer hearing in Israel than in the country he's lived in for decades.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 6:59 pm to SCLibertarian
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These immigration hearings are rubber stamps. And nobody wants to hear it, but these kangaroo proceedings exist only to appease the most powerful lobby in this country.
If only people felt this way when it’s an asylum claim, and not just when it’s a 95 year old Nazi...
Posted on 2/20/21 at 7:07 pm to SCLibertarian
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An immigration hearing is not the same as a criminal trial. He was only found to have "assisted persecution",
Contributed to genocide would be the layman definition.
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Additionally, he isn't being tried by the Germans at all, whose Nazi collaboration laws make ours look lenient.
Correct, he is a citizen there and just an immigrant here.
These laws were written for immigrants, not for US citizens. US citizens would be held to a different level.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:44 pm to John88
Yet we open the borders to illegals that rape, kill, rob, and are a drain to our society.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:02 pm to John88
In the grand scheme of things he served as a prison guard at the age of 20 in 1945, couldn't even legally drink a beer in the US today.
Lucked out in not being sent to the front, got to live in the US when times were good, and now being deported to Germany where he will receive the best social services in his final years of life.
I'm a little bit jealous.
Lucked out in not being sent to the front, got to live in the US when times were good, and now being deported to Germany where he will receive the best social services in his final years of life.
I'm a little bit jealous.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:51 am to Mo Jeaux
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How many Americans have been tried for guarding concentration camps filled with Japanese Americans during WWII?
While Japanese concentration camps were bad, I am Pretty sure we didn’t work them to death or gas them.
Which is really the issue without the Nazi Concentration Camp.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:58 am to SCLibertarian
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These immigration hearings are rubber stamps. And nobody wants to hear it, but these kangaroo proceedings exist only to appease the most powerful lobby in this country. It's a sad state of affairs when an alleged Nazi can get a fairer hearing in Israel than in the country he's lived in for decades.
Immegration hearing vs a criminal trial.
Right now his sentence is being sent to Germany.
Not exactly hard time. Lower standard of proof.
Although the doesn’t seem to be denying being a Concentration Camp Guard.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:40 am to AlonsoWDC
Yeah and those millions ended up dead
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:53 am to John88
I guess if you defend Trump, you gotta defend a nazi.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:22 am to LSUlefty
"I was just following orders".
Heard that one before.
Heard that one before.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 6:13 am to Mo Jeaux
Yeah, that’s the same. Idiot
Posted on 2/21/21 at 6:50 am to RollTide1987
And to those of you down voting my previous post, can you please show me links to articles that describe how millions of Germans were engaged in active resistance against the regime inside Nazi Germany?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 6:58 am to RollTide1987
A lot of people hid Jews, a lot of Jews actively resisted (and fled countries).
I don't know if it amounts to millions per se, but that is just the one part of resistance when it came to WW2.
I don't know if it amounts to millions per se, but that is just the one part of resistance when it came to WW2.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 7:03 am to AlonsoWDC
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It isn't this dude's right to live in America.
Lol but we let Chinese and ex Soviets live here with no investigation, they killed 20x as many people as the Nazis, clown world
Posted on 2/21/21 at 7:11 am to SCLibertarian
I’m okay with removing all of the Nazis from America. You won’t convince me otherwise
Posted on 2/21/21 at 7:26 am to Salmon
how many were active parts of the regime?
and if you know some of these people, you should report them, as the laws in which this guy was convicted just don't apply to former Trump administration.
signed AOC, Pelosi, Shumer and the rest.
and if you know some of these people, you should report them, as the laws in which this guy was convicted just don't apply to former Trump administration.
signed AOC, Pelosi, Shumer and the rest.
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