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re: U.S. deports 95-year-old who was a Nazi concentration camp guard
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:14 am to fallguy_1978
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:14 am to fallguy_1978
quote:Symbolic.
Of course not but I just fail to see what this really accomplishes.
He isn't being jailed. Just deported.
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:15 am to Roaad
Was he here illegally? I didn't read that article. Just a bit of the quotes in the OP.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:16 am to Roaad
quote:
He isn't being jailed. Just deported.
this
if you read this thread, you would think he was being put to death
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:16 am to fallguy_1978
quote:Technically, yes
Was he here illegally?
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He was removed under the 1978 Holtzman Amendment because of his "willing service as an armed guard of prisoners at a concentration camp where persecution took place," the DOJ said.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:19 am to Roaad
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Comparable to the Holocaust?
If you were to look at the body county directly attributable to our military invasions and covert CIA operations since the end of WW2, it would be in the millions. The only difference is we're killing people to maintain global American supremacy instead of killing Jews and other undesirables to maintain global white supremacy.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:20 am to Roaad
So why do the other horrible dictatorships and totalitarian governments get a pass?
Why can’t you be Objective.
And this guy wasn’t prosecuted for war crimes after the war.
France let him immigrate
The US let him in
And Germany isn’t going to charge him anyway...so what’s the fricking point?
This old man isn’t making any trouble.
So should we also go after all
The old commies and chinamen?
Why can’t you be Objective.
And this guy wasn’t prosecuted for war crimes after the war.
France let him immigrate
The US let him in
And Germany isn’t going to charge him anyway...so what’s the fricking point?
This old man isn’t making any trouble.
So should we also go after all
The old commies and chinamen?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:22 am to fr33manator
quote:
So why do the other horrible dictatorships and totalitarian governments get a pass?
who said they do
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HRSP’s case against Berger was part of its ongoing efforts to identify, investigate and prosecute individuals who engaged in genocide, torture, war crimes, recruitment or use of child soldiers, female genital mutilation, and other serious human rights violations. HRSP attorneys prosecuted the first torture case brought in the United States and have successfully prosecuted criminal cases against perpetrators of human rights violations committed in Guatemala, Ethiopia, Liberia, Cuba, and the former Yugoslavia, among others
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:23 am to SCLibertarian
quote:Over 80 years
If you were to look at the body county directly attributable to our military invasions and covert CIA operations since the end of WW2, it would be in the millions.
The Holocaust was less than ten. Stretch that rate to 80 years.
Our government is not the proverbial freckle faced girl with pigtails, here. . .but to even strain a comparison is laughable.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:25 am to fr33manator
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The old commies and chinamen?
Immigration program has changed since he came in. People with his background would likely not be granted citizenship today. They could probably still enter on some type of visa though.
Well, unless they lied or probably bribed some officials.
So what you are asking we pretty much already do under several existing programs.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 11:27 am
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:26 am to fr33manator
quote:Link?
So why do the other horrible dictatorships and totalitarian governments get a pass?
quote:Holtzman Amendment violation
And this guy wasn’t prosecuted for war crimes after the war.
France let him immigrate
The US let him in
And Germany isn’t going to charge him anyway...so what’s the fricking point?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:27 am to fr33manator
quote:
So, just to get this straight...if someone, in the past, was a member of a military that killed innocent people, that person should hang, correct?
I think If you were an active part of a genocide you should hang.
I’m not saying hang every luffwaffe pilot. But there is a difference between collateral damages and say lining up people by a ditch.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 11:29 am
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:31 am to Roaad
quote:
So why do the other horrible dictatorships and totalitarian governments get a pass?
quote:
Link?
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:34 am to Roaad
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While this evil frick guarded one, the network lost around 25,000 human lives.
He was a member of the German navy who was ordered from his post to guard a camp toward the end of the war. He wasn't even SS and the Germans could find no proof that he even knew what was going on in the camp as he (allegedly) never set foot inside of it. He guarded the perimeter.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:37 am to RollTide1987
quote:He never once asked for transfer.
He was a member of the German navy who was ordered from his post to guard a camp toward the end of the war.
Not once.
He was cool with it.
quote:So?
He wasn't even SS
quote:He prevented escapes, and participated in the Death March
He guarded the perimeter.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:37 am to Salmon
quote:
HRSP attorneys prosecuted the first torture case brought in the United States and have successfully prosecuted criminal cases against perpetrators of human rights violations committed in Guatemala, Ethiopia, Liberia, Cuba, and the former Yugoslavia, among others
This is rich considering the United States government actively supported the regimes in at least 2 of those 5 countries.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:38 am to LegendInMyMind
quote:Have I defended China?
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:39 am to RollTide1987
You mean besides guarding the prisoners on a month long march that saw many deaths.
The guy's story has changed too from being an armed guard to being an unarmed guard.
The guy's story has changed too from being an armed guard to being an unarmed guard.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:41 am to RollTide1987
quote:
He was a member of the German navy who was ordered from his post to guard a camp toward the end of the war. He wasn't even SS and the Germans could find no proof that he even knew what was going on in the camp as he (allegedly) never set foot inside of it. He guarded the perimeter.
I'm not a Nazi sympathizer by any means. frick them. But I do also wonder how many of us would have defied our orders in the same situation at 18-19 years old. I'd bet very few of us would have.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:43 am to SCLibertarian
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Should we round-up our own veterans who served and force them out of the country? Or do we recognize that war is a rich man's decision and a poor man's fight, and that the German soldier in question was doing as he was told, just as US soldiers did when they massacred civilians in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.
If you were intentionally killing civilians YES
Especially our own troops
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:43 am to fallguy_1978
Punishing a foot soldier over something done out of his control 80 years ago is legit retarded.
Men were drafted into war, men would be imprisoned or killed for refusing their duty.
Men were drafted into war, men would be imprisoned or killed for refusing their duty.
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