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re: U.S. deports 95-year-old who was a Nazi concentration camp guard

Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:56 am to
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:56 am to
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What was he supposed to do? Say no to Hitler?


I can guarantee one thing, and that’s the current politicians we have today would without question NOT say no to Hitler. They would not only join the party, but become zealots as well. People are only fooling themselves when they say they wouldn’t go along with the flow to save their own necks, or simply to provide for their families. Some would, and like in Germany, they would be met with a bullet to the back of their heads, and perhaps even their family would meet the same fate.


Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:57 am to
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this man worked at a concentration camp that worked people to death and got to just go about his life


And my uncle worked in a B-17 Flying Fortress as a bombardier, likely incinerating hundreds - if not thousands - of innocent German civilians in over 15 bombing missions he conducted in 1944 and 1945. He got to go through life as if nothing happened.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:57 am to
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He worked at the sub-camp in Meppen.
the Neuengamme concentration camp was all subcamps. It was a network of camps.

The network lost 10% of it's population every month

While this evil frick guarded one, the network lost around 25,000 human lives.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:58 am to
What about the Japanese? I'm sure there are plenty of them still alive that fought in WWII. They were absolutely brutal too. Should we go hunting them down?

That war ended almost 80 years ago and I had numerous relatives who fought in it. It's past time to move on. It's not like they found Heinrich Himmler living in Tennessee.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:59 am to
And here come all the Trump loving Nazis of this site to defend an actual Nazi.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:59 am to
So, just to get this straight...if someone, in the past, was a member of a military that killed innocent people, that person should hang, correct?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:59 am to
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What about the Japanese? I'm sure there are plenty of them still alive that fought in WWII. They were absolutely brutal too. Should we go hunting them down?
Yes!

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Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:00 am to
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And here come all the Trump loving Nazis of this site to defend an actual Nazi.



I don’t know anyone who defends a Nazi except a fellow socialist.


Posted by SCLibertarian
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:00 am to
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42,000 people died at the camp he guarded.


And about 200,000 Iraqis died as a result of our imperialist invasion and bombing of another sovereign country. Should we round-up our own veterans who served and force them out of the country? Or do we recognize that war is a rich man's decision and a poor man's fight, and that the German soldier in question was doing as he was told, just as US soldiers did when they massacred civilians in Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:01 am to
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if someone, in the past, was a Nazi concentration camp guard that killed innocent people, that person should hang, correct?
Correct
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:01 am to
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What about the Japanese? I'm sure there are plenty of them still alive that fought in WWII. They were absolutely brutal too. Should we go hunting them down?


If they live here in the US and can be tied to war crimes then YES.

Why do you think this is a gotcha question?

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That war ended almost 80 years ago and I had numerous relatives who fought in it. It's past time to move on. It's not like they found Heinrich Himmler living in Tennessee.


The fact that you had relative fight in WWII gives your opinion 0% more credits

It’s a war crime.
80 years doesn’t excuse it.

should we just let the Golden State Killer go because he’s really old?
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 11:03 am
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:02 am to
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I don’t know anyone who defends a Nazi except a fellow socialist.

Must be a ton of right wing socialists in this thread, then.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:03 am to
So, only evil under the Nazi flag matters. You don’t care about actual evil, you only care about one special sort of evil and the rest don’t matter.


At least you admit it.

You’d probably go to a party with those that ran the gulags and the purges.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:03 am to
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Must be a ton of right wing socialists in this thread, then.




Wouldn’t know. Never met someone so incredibly divided against themselves.


Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:05 am to
You didn’t even use the word only in your bullshite gotcha question.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:08 am to
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So, only evil under the Nazi flag matters.
This was a regime rooted in actual state sponsored genocide. And the crimes are specifically framed around that regime, and that act. They weren't collateral damage, they were the specifically designated targets.

So spare me your comparison.

And I KNOW that I am considerably more anti-war than you, and the entire Poli Board.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:09 am to
I'm not defending him but was he found guilty of committing war crimes? Because if his service in the Nazi military is what we are basing this on than that entire generation of Germans and Japanese are guilty as well.

Do you know how many American soldiers have served in military operations where atrocities were committed?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:10 am to
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Do you know how many American soldiers have served in military operations where atrocities were committed?
Comparable to the Holocaust?
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:12 am to
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Comparable to the Holocaust?

Of course not but I just fail to see what this really accomplishes.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:13 am to


ICE is the group that caught him, and is deporting him.

I guess Dems can like ICE again. . .

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