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re: US Army open to considering removal of Confederate leaders' names from bases
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:59 pm to Ricardo
Posted on 6/8/20 at 7:59 pm to Ricardo
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They fought for what they believed in. That's admirable.
I'm not so sure it is. Fighting for the right to own other people isn't exactly honorable.
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Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:01 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Bragg was a terrible field officer as was Beauregard
Well that guy's got a National Guard base named after him.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:02 pm to Huey Lewis
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Rename them all for LGBT heroes I say
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USNS Harvey Milk will be the second of the John Lewis class of underway replenishment oilers, operated by the Military Sealift Command to support ships of the United States Navy.
Construction of the lead ship of the class, USNS John Lewis (T-AO-205), was tentatively scheduled to begin in 2018 at General Dynamics NASSCO in San Diego. According to the Naval Vessel Register, construction of both ships was authorized on 30 June 2016.
In July 2016, United States Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus advised Congress that he intended to name the Military Sealift Command's John Lewis-class oilers after prominent civil rights leaders, with the second to be named for gay rights activist Harvey Milk.
The ship was officially named at a ceremony in San Francisco on 16 August 2016. It is the first U.S. Navy ship named for an openly gay leader. The first cut of steel occurred on 13 December 2019, marking the beginning of construction of the vessel.
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He started a romantic relationship with Jack Galen McKinley and recruited him to work on conservative Republican Barry Goldwater's 1964 presidential campaign. Their relationship was troubled. When McKinley first began his relationship with Milk in late 1964, McKinley was 16 years old.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:03 pm to heatom2
CSA will make a return one day.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:04 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
And millions of dollars will be wasted to re-brand all the bases. I'm sure if folks knew that they'd much rather see the money go somewhere else more constructive.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:06 pm to gptigers
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And millions of dollars will be wasted to re-brand all the bases. I'm sure if folks knew that they'd much rather see the money go somewhere else more constructive.
Let's not get all uppity about wasteful military spending now.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:06 pm to OleWarSkuleAlum
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Hood was not a terrible General.
Hood was an excellent division commander but was a mediocre corps commander and a terrible army commander. The man didn't have the chops for high command.
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:07 pm to RollTide1987
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Hood was an excellent division commander but was a mediocre corps commander and a terrible army commander. The man didn't have the chops for high command.
He did have the potential if he didn’t get grievously injured every battle pretty much. That affected his psyche.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:08 pm to dawgfan24348
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The obsession some people in the south have with a bunch of people who fought to keep slaves is pretty weird
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:08 pm to heatom2
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:09 pm to heatom2
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I'll never understand the obsession with the CSA. I've lived in the south my entire life and I've never felt any connection with the confederates
Where were your ancestors in the 1860s?
This post was edited on 6/8/20 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:11 pm to Ricardo
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It's easy to judge them, because you have the benefit of hindsight.
I can accept some of that, but it still boggles the mind why contemporary southerners are so obsessed with them.
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FWIW, Lincoln wasn't an abolitionist, nor did he believe blacks should have the same rights as whites.
I didnt bring up Lincoln.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:11 pm to Ricardo
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It's easy to judge them, because you have the benefit of hindsight
It sure is. We also judge Nazis with that benefit.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:12 pm to OleWar
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Where where your ancestors in the 1860s?
My family has been in Lousiana since the 1780s.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:12 pm to heatom2
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Let's not get all uppity about wasteful military spending now.
Yup, you're right. I forgot about the bureaucracy and lack of common sense in the military. Full speed ahead!
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:14 pm to heatom2
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:15 pm to Ricardo
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Slavery was already on its way out by the time of the Civil War. That much was pretty clear by the technological developments of the era. FWIW, Lincoln wasn't an abolitionist, nor did he believe blacks should have the same rights as whites.
And yet for all these facts, the CSA still chose to fight for slavery and come off looking terrible. Really no defense for those morons when you think about it that way.
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:15 pm to SCLibertarian
So they can't get over the fact they lost? The south was never going to win it anyway
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:16 pm to heatom2
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I'll never understand the obsession with the CSA. I've lived in the south my entire life and I've never felt any connection with the confederates.
Growing up in the south the most passionately pro-CSA people were invariably the dumbest people too so there's that
Posted on 6/8/20 at 8:16 pm to Cocotheape
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This post was edited on 6/14/20 at 8:10 pm
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