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re: Urgent care in Brooklyn finds 50% of people sampled have Coronavirus Antibodies
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:55 pm to Ross
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:55 pm to Ross
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at what % can we say herd immunity has been accomplished?
60-70%, but a sampling of urgent care patients isn't a great population to figure out whether herd immunity exists in the broader population.
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:56 pm to Cosmo
Roche as well. I'm doing the Abbott one today at 2:30, just got it scheduled.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 1:59 pm to Cosmo
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I think the Abbott and Mayo ones are good
You're damn right ours are good. Roche also has produced some good ones, I believe.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:00 pm to Zappas Stache
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And again, antibody tests are not accurate.
Some were deemed bad, yes.
But antibody testing isn’t some new thing. Most legit testing companies have a 99% rate. Stop spreading lies, fool.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:00 pm to nerd guy
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Looking at 256 samples – comprising samples from 103 from patients with COVID-19 detected by PCR testing and 153 samples from patients without the disease – they found that Abbott's test, which runs on the company's Architect platform, had a specificity of 99.4 percent and a sensitivity of 93.8 percent 14 days or more after symptoms began.
Meanwhile, Euroimmun's assay, running on Inova Diagnostics' Quanta-Lyser 240 instrument, had a specificity of 94.8 percent and a sensitivity of 85.4 percent 14 days after the onset of symptoms. For Euroimmun's test, borderline results were primarily reported as positive results.
Texas baws, these are available from remedy. Drive thru blood draw after a 15 minute video appt with a doctor. I'm paying $0.
Edit: just did it. Took 2 minutes and didn't even have to leave the car.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:06 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:08 pm to Cosmo
Gave blood the other day, they’re doing antibody testing when they run everything through the lab.
Should hear back in two weeks.
Should hear back in two weeks.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:09 pm to Ross
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at what % can we say herd immunity has been accomplished?
Typically 70%
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:10 pm to Rep520
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60-70%
This was the initial estimate based on everyone being equally susceptible to infection.
This is likely not the case, it's likely much lower.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:14 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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This was the initial estimate based on everyone being equally susceptible to infection.
The general range for all diseases is 50-90%. Being 60-70% is already adjusted downwards from more contagious diseases.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:17 pm to Rep520
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The general range for all diseases is 50-90%. Being 60-70% is already adjusted downwards from more contagious diseases.
True, but there is mounting evidence that 30-60% of the population may be innately immune. IF that turns out to be the case, that drastically reduces what is needed for herd immunity.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:44 pm to WaWaWeeWa
I appreciate your posts but I honestly have no idea why it's surprising that half of the patients at an urgent care facility at the epicenter of a pandemic show antibodies for the virus. It just seems logical.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:45 pm to WaWaWeeWa
If I have Antibodies can I skip the bulIshit vaccine?
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:48 pm to TH03
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So 50% of covid patients had covid antibodies? I don't think this means what people think it means.
What do you think it means?
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:50 pm to Cosmo
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Wut?
A lot of healthy people are currently going to urgent cares just to get antibody tested. Most are charging like $100 cash and I think BCBS is paying for it in several states.
currently yes, but the 11,000 tested in the study went to urgent care in April
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:53 pm to fightin tigers
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fightin tigers
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quote:Brooklyn fricking hipsters getting antibodies before getting antibodies was cool
Bang up job, mate!!!!!!!
Posted on 5/26/20 at 2:56 pm to moneyg
I know what it means. 50% of patients had it meaning either 50% of the people thought they had it so they went it to check or 50% of people had it and now have antibodies. It doesn't mean 50% of New York or Brooklyn had it.
Look I'm all for seeing numbers that say we're close to herd immunity. Hell, I just got an antibody test. This doesn't seem to be saying that though.
Look I'm all for seeing numbers that say we're close to herd immunity. Hell, I just got an antibody test. This doesn't seem to be saying that though.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:05 pm to Cosmo
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This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 5/26/20 at 3:20 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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Additionally, while the data are preliminary, our study shows that patients who experienced a
more severe clinical course of SARS-CoV-2 infection are more likely to have higher serum levels
of SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody. Therefore, it follows, that these individuals are more likely to
benefit from protective immunity and are less prone, at least in the short-term, to reinfection
by SARS-CoV-2.
The bold part goes along with your hypothesis regarding asymptomatic/those with a T cell response not producing many antibodies.
That second sentence does potentially sound a bit worrisome, but that's more of an unknown than a worry.
Posted on 5/26/20 at 8:43 pm to Ross
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at what % can we say herd immunity has been accomplished?
I'm not sure, but I know how we can get to that number faster...
Also, what is significant about herd immunity? If you're one of the X % that doesn't have antibodies, are you any less screwed than before society passed the "herd immunity" threshold?
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