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re: Urban institute study has Louisiana 2nd in nation in 4th grade reading scores, behind MS
Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:09 am to UncleRuckus
Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:09 am to UncleRuckus
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What kind of retard bullshite is demographically adjusted
Progressive institutional racism
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:16 pm to alajones
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If you worked in public education, you’d know that teachers are allowed nowhere near the tests. And any sort of testing discrepancies or something that would question the integrity of the test, would get you fired quicker than being drunk on duty.
Gotta let them use their buzzwords like this and "schools need to teach trades" so that they feel important and smart despite neither statements being remotely true since the late 2000's.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:19 pm to Oilfieldbiology
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Demographically adjusted again?
Demographically adjusted, Massachusetts kicks arse
they adjust for Irish too
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:24 pm to PrimeTime Money
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That’s not what it is. It’s comparing different groups to get a more accurate picture.
Louisiana’s poor blacks vs California’s poor blacks.
Louisiana’s poor whites vs California’s poor whites.
Louisiana’s wealthy whites vs California’s wealthy whites.
it is not just race thing, as much as people want it to be. You'd expect reading levels to be higher in places with educated parents.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:26 pm to Cosmo
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No. They score lower because they cant read good
Exactly. My wife and I were poor when our four children were young, but every one of them could read before their fourth birthday. I don’t want to hear that shite.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:31 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
It is meant to compare each group. Black to black. White to white. Male to Male. And so on. Income is also a factor.
If state A is 90% white and 10% black, while state B is 60% white and 40% black, the rankings would take the average of each group and create matched states. Then you can look at cohorts. If evened out, state B does better with the black kids, you can start to isolate the problems.
I don't know NAEP's methodology, but typically you will see numbers averaged out to match the national demographic mix.
If state A is 90% white and 10% black, while state B is 60% white and 40% black, the rankings would take the average of each group and create matched states. Then you can look at cohorts. If evened out, state B does better with the black kids, you can start to isolate the problems.
I don't know NAEP's methodology, but typically you will see numbers averaged out to match the national demographic mix.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:31 pm to migui8618
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The only people who believe this shite, don't live in Louisiana or Mississippi. Everyone else knows they are just cooking the books. Our kids are stupid than ever.
Well, I don't know about that, but it is clear that you are stupid.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:36 pm to SaintsTiger
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Adjusting for demographics tries to strip out unfair biases like poverty or systemic racism that drag down scores for certain groups
bullshite!!
First, there is non systematic racism especially in education.
And somebody please explain to me what impact your parents income level have on your ability to sit, listen, and learn while you are sitting in a classroom. Never had understood using poverty as an excuse or the constant cry from schools that they need more money to improve the education level.
For a couple hundred years prior to recent technology advancements, teachers taught basically using chalk, a chalkboard and a textbook. I learned just fine with those 3 things. It doesn’t cost near what they imply to give a good solid basic education in reading, writing, and math.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:39 pm to Penrod
quote:no they couldn’t. Very very rare for a 3yo to actually read.
but every one of them could read before their fourth birthday
Maybe know some site words, know and spell their name, memorize words in their favorite book, phonically know all their letters. But you’re full of shite if you say all of your kids could ‘read’ at 3yo
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:00 pm to Kingshakabooboo
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And somebody please explain to me what impact your parents income level have on your ability to sit, listen, and learn while you are sitting in a classroom. Never had understood using poverty as an excuse or the constant cry from schools that they need more money to improve the education level.
Instead of crying about how these stats are adjusted, be happy the south is doing something right for a change.
It is just tracking trends.
What Mississippi started doing was pretty simple. Teach phonics and hold back 3rd graders that don't pass. Majority of the country it is nearly impossible to hold kids back.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:13 pm to Cosmo
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So blacks get their scores bumped up 20% in the name of equity?
No. A simplistic example:
If Louisiana is 30% black and 70% white; Louisiana blacks score 50 on average and Louisiana whites score 70 on average; and the nation is 10% black and 90% white.
The Louisiana unadjusted score would be 30 x 50 + 70 x 70 = 6,400 or a 64 average.
Louisiana’s adjusted score would be 10 x 50 + 90 x 70 = 6,800 or a 68 average.
The individual’s scores don’t change, but states can now be compared. It’s more complicated than that example because they slice and dice the demographics more.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:04 pm to UncleRuckus
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What kind of retard bullshite is demographically adjusted
If I remember correctly it looks to see how does your demographic breakdown compare to the demographic average nationally. Essentially, how do the white students from upper middle class compare to the nation average for upper middle class whites. Now apply to the same for all demographics. I’ll let someone better at communication explain it further.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:07 pm to Dire Wolf
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What Mississippi started doing was pretty simple. Teach phonics and hold back 3rd graders that don't pass.
This is what Louisiana implemented as well.
Research has shown that if a kid isn’t literate by 3rd grade, they never catch up.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:12 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Test score studies always demographically adjust
This is moronic.
They can read well "for a black person" is not quite the flex this study makes it out to be.
There should be level reading guidelines that everyone is judged by.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
One thing that is inspiring about Louisiana demographically adjusted youth is how well they understand the metric system
They all know about millimeters and grams and kilos
They all know about millimeters and grams and kilos
Posted on 9/30/25 at 4:02 pm to SuperSaint
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no they couldn’t. Very very rare for a 3yo to actually read.
Maybe know some site words
I personally taught all four to read long before their fourth birthday. They could sound out any one syllable word unless it was a goofy one. They knew most common sight words, and could read on about the second grade level. And it was easy. I spent about two minutes per evening for about four or five weeks, and by that time they had most of the phonics down pat. Here’s how I did it.
I happened upon a book written by a father who taught his kids at a similar age. He explained his techniques and I imitated them. He didn’t teach his kids the letter names; instead he taught them the primary sounds the letters make. So when you placed the letters H A T on the table and pointed to each in sequence, the child said the word “hat” just by naming the letters. Of course it was a struggle to get them to blend it and hear the word, but it didn’t take long. Once they got it, they were off and running.
My innovation was psychological, and I strongly recommend it. I got three of the colorful letter cards and pretended to mess around with them. When my daughter asked to have them I told her, “No, these are dad’s.” I let her beg a little, and then relented, saying, “okay, but just for two minutes.” I timed her, and before she got bored I took them away, but not before I had taught her the names (sounds actually) of B, A & T.
I kept it to two or three minutes per night, always ending it before her attention waned. I promise you she was reading within two months, and well before her fourth birthday. I did it every year and a half, for four and a half more years, because that’s how spaced out my four kids were. And these results comported with those of the book’s author. It was easy as shite. Try it.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:39 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The amount of people in this thread who don't understand that the demographic adjustment isn't the same as affirmative action type practices is mind numbing.
Mississippi and Louisiana has lots of idiots. They adjust for that fact for states with less idiots. They then compare the scores to determine which idiots are actually being taught well. It's a grade of the teaching quality, not the results of the students.
Mississippi and Louisiana has lots of idiots. They adjust for that fact for states with less idiots. They then compare the scores to determine which idiots are actually being taught well. It's a grade of the teaching quality, not the results of the students.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:28 pm to MOT
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Some states have higher populations of demographics that over perform on average.
Other states may have higher populations of demographics that under perform on average.
It’s a way to measure those states against one another if all demographic variables were equal
That...makes sense.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:39 pm to GreenRockTiger
Tell your youth group to quit dragging the state down.
This board is incredible and all it does is gripe. 49th in education- LA sucks. LA makes moves upwards- they teach to the test, everyone is dumber than when I was a kid, blah, blah, blah.
How about celebrating we've had some successes?
This board is incredible and all it does is gripe. 49th in education- LA sucks. LA makes moves upwards- they teach to the test, everyone is dumber than when I was a kid, blah, blah, blah.
How about celebrating we've had some successes?
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Can they spell offense?
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