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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:52 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:52 pm to lsupride87
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Well the detectives have decided not to go with that angle then......
Exactly, they may have. It may have been something that was communicated to them at the outset because it had been mentioned but then turns out to be unsupported. The detectives would have talked to the family early on and then things may have changed.
At this point I have little faith in any of the fact patterns but I have learned not to dismiss any of them. We aren't going to get the Ward side of this any time soon if at all.
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:52 pm to slackster
quote:You didnt talk about the fringe here
Pride, I'm not calling any of this into question. I'm talking about the fringe, and I'm saying the fringe that would give a white guy the benefit of the doubt is substantially larger than the fringe that would give a black guy the benefit of the doubt, assuming all else was equal. That fringe may be relatively small, but it exists on this board.
I will agree if you change your original statement to a select fringe will change their opinions based on race
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I contend that outside of friends/family, if an educated young black professional killed a poor, older white man in New Orleans at 1AM, it would be incredibly difficult to find someone (on this board) who wanted to wait until the facts came out at trial before wanting to lock up the black guy and throw away the key.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:53 pm to lsupride87
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You are saying that if only the race changed, than almost everyones opinions would change. That is you inferring race is the most important characteristic of the people involved, is it not?
No, you're misunderstanding. MOST people in this thread are ready to lock up Ward for life. I'm suggesting there would be even more people willing to lock up Ward for life if he was black, along with all of his other characteristics, and if the victim was white.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:53 pm to Covingtontiger77
Why is this thread allowed but not anything about the LSU alum and alleged paedophile who was arrested twice last fall for distribution of child porn 
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:54 pm to PearlJam
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I get that. My comment was in reference to him being able to plead it down to manslaughter and get a split sentence.
He will not get a plea that allows him out in 5 years.
Probably 20 with chance to get out within 12-15
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:56 pm to lsupride87
you’re kidding, right? You actually think his height and weight matter in prison? From the time he enters, those inmates will mark him in two ways: 1) for being a pretty blue-eyed white boy with a pudgy arse; and 2) having $. And that’s a very dangerous combination when you’re going to prison, especially for an interracial murder.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:57 pm to lsupride87
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I will agree if you change your original statement to a select fringe will change their opinions based on race
There aren't a ton of people wanting to wait for the facts in this case, other than related parties. I'm pretty certain that someone who has made their mind up on Ward already will definitely have their mind made up if the races were switched, no? That's a pretty safe assumption.
I'm talking about the handful of posters who are unrelated but won't throw Ward under the bus yet because they want more facts. My previous statement was that it would be difficult to find someone outside of LSUTangerine to wait for more details, and I still think that's true. The handful of unrelated posters who want to hear more would vanish IMO.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:57 pm to the paradigm
Supposedly that stuff about people being raped in prison is bullshite. I googled it one night out of curiosity and there are a bunch of first hand accounts saying that it’s not as rampant as everybody says
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:59 pm to the paradigm
quote:I have spoke with an angola guard when I go the rodeo
From the time he enters, those inmates will mark him in two ways: 1) for being a pretty blue-eyed white boy with a pudgy arse; and 2) having $. And that’s a very dangerous combination when you’re going to prison, especially for an interracial murder.
From what I heard, the prison life is greatly exaggerated on this front
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:59 pm to lsupride87
guess who said these things
so tell us, why dont you believe the witnesses version of what happened?
And you're calling Slack and myself racist?
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I am leaning towards the man that got murdered at 130 am in NOLA may have not been a saint....
Is that callous of me and wrong to think that? Maybe so, but I am a human with preconceived notions and bias based on my life experiences
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Will be interesting to see the 180 this thread does if the witnesses names are released, and their names are Jonesha'qa and Monesha'la and Arnold was indeed a black man himself
so tell us, why dont you believe the witnesses version of what happened?
And you're calling Slack and myself racist?
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:00 pm to slackster
quote:We jsut arent going to agree
I'm talking about the handful of posters who are unrelated but won't throw Ward under the bus yet because they want more facts. My previous statement was that it would be difficult to find someone outside of LSUTangerine to wait for more details, and I still think that's true. The handful of unrelated posters who want to hear more would vanish IMO.
I think most (not all), of those posters, would still want to hear more if a black college grad with no hisotry who worked at latter and blum killed a poor white male.
We just arent going to agree here
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:00 pm to lsupride87
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That will never happen. If it isnt in the police report, it didnt happen. They arent going to write down things in the reprot to ensure they didnt happen
If an altercation with a woman is never mentioned during the trial or in any police reports, then I'll believe it was completely fabricated.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:01 pm to SirWinston
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Supposedly that stuff about people being raped in prison is bullshite. I googled it one night out of curiosity and there are a bunch of first hand accounts saying that it’s not as rampant as everybody says
Something tells me that you can take the "first hand" accounts with a grain of salt. I know that I would never admit to being raped, so I'm sure others feel the same way.
Same probably goes for a prison guard. He's not doing a very good job if everyone is running around getting their cheeks busted
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:01 pm to slackster
quote:10-4
If an altercation with a woman is never mentioned during the trial or in any police reports, then I'll believe it was completely fabricated.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:02 pm to lsupride87
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I think most (not all), of those posters, would still want to hear more if a black college grad with no hisotry who worked at latter and blum killed a poor white male.
We just arent going to agree here
Maybe not, but there aren't very many of them in the thread in the first place. The majority being cautious are related to Ward in some fashion. You've got a few that piped up in the first 15-20 pages though.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:03 pm to SirWinston
It used to be a lot worse. That said, shite still happens. Usually it's mind games and psychological coercion rather than overt force. The pen has some master manipulators, with nothing to do all day but come up with schemes.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:03 pm to PearlJam
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I get that. My comment was in reference to him being able to plead it down to manslaughter
Unless something big changes re Red's part, Ward will likely plead to manslaughter BUT the DA will not likely agree to a sentence commensurate with him (with his prior clean record etc) have just committed manslaughter. It appears he committed murder and so far it doesn't seem like there are any significant holes in the case.
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:05 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:Excuse me?
so tell us, why dont you believe the witnesses version of what happened?
I said this
quote:That has nothing to do with race. That is me playing percentages that being out late in nola on the streets, and ending up in an altercation like this, doesnt usually involvove a completely innocent party
I am leaning towards the man that got murdered at 130 am in NOLA may have not been a saint....
Sometimes it does though. There are cases of people completely innocent being attacked, and Red may be one of them
quote:This is me speaking to those who are believing the witness statements with 100% certainty
Will be interesting to see the 180 this thread does if the witnesses names are released, and their names are Jonesha'qa and Monesha'la and Arnold was indeed a black man himself
If the witnessess turn out to be black and poor themselves, I think alot of people who beleive said witnessess now, will possibly not beelvie them as they will infer they were friends of Jackson or have a bias
You have done a really bad job in here lately
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:07 pm to Obtuse1
quote:If Ward goes to plea (meaning he likely doesnt have a strong story or any reason why he did this)I would hope the DA doesnt give him a light sentence.
Unless something big changes re Red's part, Ward will likely plead to manslaughter BUT the DA will not likely agree to a sentence commensurate with him (with his prior clean record etc) have just committed manslaughter. It appears he committed murder and so far it doesn't seem like there are any significant holes in the case.
This would be a very callous murder as it is staged now
Posted on 1/25/18 at 3:07 pm to lsupride87
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have spoke with an angola guard when I go the rodeo
From what I heard, the prison life is greatly exaggerated on this front
Basically everything I’ve read has said this. Whether it’s interviews with prisoners or ama’s with ex-cons.
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