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re: Update: Alleged Perp in custody: Garret James Ward of BR for 2nd Degree murder

Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:12 pm to
If he can plead it down to manslaughter, I think he could easily serve less than 5 years with a clean record.
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 2:16 pm
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:14 pm to
Why does everybody think garret did it? Could be the wrong place at the wrong time. He doesn't fit the profile of a criminal
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:15 pm to
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your comparision actually portrays a very clear picture of how you perceive race and their cultures/stereotypes


Welcome to real life
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:15 pm to
In on page 100
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:17 pm to
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If he can plead it down to manslaughter, I think he could easily serve less than 5 years with a clean record.


Well one of the posters in this thread who spent several years as a prosecutor in Orleans Parish feels that he will serve much longer.
Posted by Splackavellie
Bayou
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:17 pm to
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If he can please it down to manslaughter


Hot
Posted by tLSU
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:19 pm to
No, not really. Police don't approach a situation where someone is beat to hell as one in which they have to determine if the perpetrator, who fled to a parking garage to hide and isn't injured, as if they have to determine if the perp acted in self defense.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:19 pm to
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Well one of the posters in this thread who spent several years as a prosecutor in Orleans Parish feels that he will serve much longer.
well he has a better perspective than I do. A defendant without a record, that made a terrible decision while impaired can sometimes get some leniency in a sentence. Maybe something like a 20 split 5.

Do they do split sentences in La.?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:22 pm to
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Slackster, and tgrbait, are the ones that actually let their preconceived bias about race come out, as they are speaking down to others claiming they are


You think race plays "an immaterial part" in why people are more willing to believe that Ward must have been provoked. I think that's naïve, at best.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:24 pm to
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You think race plays "an immaterial part" in why people are more willing to believe that Ward must have been provoked. I think that's naïve, at best.
You think it is naive because you are portraying the black criminal as a thug with no life, instead of as a black, well dressed graduate with a full time job.....
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:25 pm to
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No, not really. Police don't approach a situation where someone is beat to hell as one in which they have to determine if the perpetrator, who fled to a parking garage to hide and isn't injured, as if they have to determine if the perp acted in self defense.


Can you explain why the police would release information completely contradicting the woman beating then, if the woman beating actually happened?



ETA: I respect your opinions more than anyone, but damnit you are too slow and are a couple post behind my questions
This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 2:26 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:28 pm to
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so this is what you are saying is happening if the family is telling the truth:


Family hears from a "witness" that Red was intervening to stop Ward from beating a woman. That witness may or may not have spoken to the NOPD, we don't know.

NOPD may have someone who says Ward was in a heated argument with a woman prior to attacking Red. NOPD detective tells this to Red's ex, who likely believes this corroborates the story she heard form the convenience store employee(s).

NOPD may not believe Red was trying to intervene, but simply in the wrong place at the wrong time as Ward was hot from the argument with the woman. Ward flips out on Red and kills him.

That's entirely plausible and would make sense within the "official" reports we've heard and give the basis for the rumors his family has retold.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:29 pm to
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Family hears from a "witness" that Red was intervening to stop Ward from beating a woman.
Umm, they also said they heard it from a detective....
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:30 pm to
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A defendant without a record, that made a terrible decision while impaired can sometimes get some leniency in a sentence.


Consider (if the "facts" are generally true) the full sentence is life without parole even 20 years (for a 25yo) is fairly lenient, no?
Posted by PearlJam
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:32 pm to
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the full sentence is life without parole
for manslaughter?
Posted by NFLSU
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:32 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/25/18 at 2:33 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:33 pm to
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Consider (if the "facts" are generally true) the full sentence is life without parole even 20 years (for a 25yo) is fairly lenient, no?
I agree.


Unless something changes, Ward deserves some serious time
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:33 pm to
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Umm, they also said they heard it from a detective....


And they could have.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111519 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:33 pm to
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And they could have.
Well the detectives have decided not to go with that angle then......

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 1/25/18 at 2:34 pm to
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Umm, they also said they heard it from a detective....



What makes you believe they didnt?
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