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Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:34 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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If you don't sail the boat next slip over will
Not really how it works when it comes to waiting a few hrs to let weather pass.
My guess is that they knew they were going to get some rain at least, but the weather blew up into something much more severe than anticipated.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:41 am to G2160
The SL Scanner fb page has someone posting that "most have been found and are at the hospital" .. I pray that they know their shite.
Also, there are families there begging for info on their loved ones ... this is so so sad.
Also, there are families there begging for info on their loved ones ... this is so so sad.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:48 am to weskarl
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Rotated & flipped, looks like the starboard leg above water, entire living quarters/helm under water
That's the port leg out of the water, the boat capsized onto its starboard side. The Stbd and aft leg are under water.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:48 am to Captain Crackysack
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Said they dropped life jackets and a radio to 3 guys hanging on the superstructure last night.
I know it’s simple for me to say and sounds terrible, but you would think that there would be away to just hold on for dear life until morning. Find some way to rest your body weight on something and just hold on for life, literally. Easy to say from the comfort of my couch. I know. I pray for these men and their families. A true tragedy to see a man lose his life trying to feed his family the only way he knows how. In that business, tragedy seems to strike with little notice.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:49 am to G2160
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Not really how it works when it comes to waiting a few hrs to let weather pass.
Right. These lift boars are on contracts. This one had just come in off a 90 day job. It was likely heading back on another long term job.
These boat aren’t just sitting around with a crew at the dock waiting on spot jobs. There is quite a bit of planning when it comes to mobing and demobing a lift boat.
This was a freak event
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:53 am to supadave3
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I know it’s simple for me to say and sounds terrible, but you would think that there would be away to just hold on for dear life until morning.
The air and water temperature has a lot to do with it. If hypothermia sets in despite all efforts they won't be able to hold on for an extended period of time. Hypothermia isn't just a cold water thing.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:58 am to Ol boy
So it ultimately falls to the boss man or to a captain:crew as far as responsibility when shite like this happens?
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:59 am to Bigfishchoupique
My son in law is on a rig 5 miles from there. Said there were 20 foot waves and 75 mph winds. Believes those guy never knew what hit them. Still in their bunks.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:59 am to VABuckeye
I don't think hypothermia was a concern. It maybe got down into the mid 60s last night.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:02 am to tiger91
The master of the vessel has the ultimate authority on whether or not that boat leaves the dock. Obviously his company and the client can pressure him, but ultimately the responsibility is on the master to ensure safe conditions for his vessel and crew
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:03 am to UpToPar
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don't think hypothermia was a concern
If seawater Temps are below something like 80 than hypothermia is a major concern. I imagine its still pretty cold.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:06 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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If seawater Temps are below something like 80 than hypothermia is a major concern. I imagine its still pretty cold.
I read it as the guys were hanging onto a part of the crane out of the water, but yea, if they are in the water then that's not good.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:07 am to UpToPar
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I don't think hypothermia was a concern. It maybe got down into the mid 60s last night.
What's the water temp? Hypothermia can set in, with even 70-80 degree water, if you are in it for an extended timeframe.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:07 am to UpToPar
Praying for these men.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:07 am to UpToPar
[quote]on't think hypothermia was a concern. It maybe got down into the mid 60s last night.
It’s plenty of cold enough for hypothermia to be a factor.
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:07 am to Y.A. Tittle
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I don't think hypothermia was a concern. It maybe got down into the mid 60s last night.
You can get it in 80 degree water if you are there long enough.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:08 am to HeadSlash
I saw something that said 85 sustained at the loop.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:10 am to tiger91
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So it ultimately falls to the boss man or to a captain:crew as far as responsibility when shite like this happens?
Final say so is always the captain. Don’t get me wrong some company’s may try to persuade a vessel/crew to sail but boat companies are more inclined to push back knowing the ramifications of an incident. If this incident gets pinned on the vessel company or the hiring production company as being liabale for sailing into known weather the lawyers will have a field day.
I would be willing to bet they didn’t think it was going to be as bad. Maybe someone can chime in cus I haven’t seen it, were there severe weather advisory in place at the time of them leaving? I mean I know I saw the forecast and it’s tracking across the state but didn’t think it would have that kind of impact.
Most companies recieve a daily or twice daily forecast showing wind and wave forecast for the areas they work in. it’s a subscription and fairly more accurate than the local news but looking at yesterdays it only shows max winds gust of 35-40??!!!
Marine weather may have had something mid day
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 9:25 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:11 am to UpToPar
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I don't think hypothermia was a concern. It maybe got down into the mid 60s last night.
I don't know what the water temps on the coast are currently, but Hypothermia can occur in 70 degree water.
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